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#479205 - 01/15/08 03:19 PM 1941 Buick Tools
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Hi,
Do any members know what tools were in the factory tool kit for a 1941 Buick? The 1937-38 Buick Club has a good desciption of the tools provided with a 1937-38 Buick. However, the Buick parts book lists different part numbers (no images) for 1941. Do any members have an orginal tool kit that can provide a description (including manufacturer's name, P/N, or trade mark on the tools)and/or pictures of the contents? Also, please include a description of the design and construction of the original bag.
Thanks,
Grandpa

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#479933 - 01/18/08 08:46 AM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: Grandpa]
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The Buick Gallery and Research Center of the Sloan Museum in Flint has an origional 1941 Buick factory tool catalog. I was just there a couple of days ago doing some research on my 41 and saw it. I'm sure if you contact them (810-237-3440) they will make you a copy for a nominal fee. Let me know if you have any problems getting the information.
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#480130 - 01/18/08 10:44 PM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: DAVES_BUICKS]
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Ooooh...that I'd like. I'll have to remember to get a hold of them someday....
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#480340 - 01/19/08 08:44 PM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: Thriller]
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Hi Daves_Buicks,
Thanks for the information about the Sloan Museum resource. I believe that the factory tool kit provided with Buicks of the 1930s and 1940s were purchased by GM from the Vlchek Tool Co. in Ohio. Since Vlchek was in business from 1895 through the late 1960s, there are many design variations of the same type of tool. Thus, the problem becomes finding the correct vintage Vlchek tool for the year of the car. A picture and description of the contents of an original 1941 Buick tool kit would be a great.
Grandpa

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#481238 - 01/23/08 08:27 AM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: Grandpa]
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Okay, I think this will help. According to the 1929-1941 Buick Master Parts List, the tool kit for 1939-1941 are all the same (part number 1314665). My 1940 Model 41 came with a cloth bag with pliers and a ball-peen hammer in it. The hammer is not original. According to the 1940 Buick Shop Manual; "Tools supplied with car consist of screwdriver, pliers, car jack and wheel wrench." There are no markings on anything except for "Drop Forged" on the pliers.

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#481256 - 01/23/08 09:37 AM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: edalfa]
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Hi Ed,
Thank you for the picture of the tool kit in your 1940 Buick. The pliers look like the Vlchek design. I found a web site that has good information on vintage GM tool kits. Visit:
http://1940chevrolet.com/
This web site details the tool kits provided with Chevrolets from 1916 through 1966. The information is detailed and includes drawings of the tool variations through the years. More than likely, the same tools are also used in Buicks. However, the selection of tool types provided in the Buick tool kit may differ from the Chevrolet.
Grandpa

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#481263 - 01/23/08 09:59 AM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: Grandpa]
Grandpa Offline
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Hi Ed,
This is a P.S. to my earlier post today. Visit the following web site for more information on Vlchek tool kits and company history:

http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/vlchek-story.html

Grandpa

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#481271 - 01/23/08 10:15 AM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: Grandpa]
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I recognize some of the tools on the Vlchek site. I guess I will have to sort through them again....
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#481314 - 01/23/08 01:12 PM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: Grandpa]
edalfa Offline
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Interesting stuff. It just occured to me that I have a box of stuff that came with the car. I think it is in the attic. Maybe the screwdriver is there. Especially now that I have an idea what it looks like.

Ed

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#481336 - 01/23/08 02:22 PM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: edalfa]
Grandpa Offline
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Ed,
I think (not confirmed) that the 1941 Buick (and likely the 1940 Buick) tool kit contained (as a minimum) the following Vlchek tools:
Ball Peen Hammer
Adjustable 9" Wrench (a "Monkey Wrench")
Pliers
Screwdriver (blade type with black stained wooden handle)
Open End Wrench (likely 1/2" x 9/16")
Spark Plug Socket
Anyway, this is a guess at this point.
Grandpa

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#481474 - 01/23/08 09:42 PM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: Grandpa]
edalfa Offline
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I'm not so sure just based on the description from the Shop Manual "Tools supplied with the car consist of screwdriver, pliers, car jack and wheel wrench." The hammer that came with my car is a touch too long to fit the bag. Of course, I don't know that the bag is OEM but...

By the way, what kind of 1941 Buick do you have?

Ed

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#481506 - 01/23/08 11:31 PM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: edalfa]
Grandpa Offline
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Ed,
My 1941 Buick is a Roadmaster model 71C convertible sedan.
Grandpa

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#481575 - 01/24/08 09:09 AM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: Grandpa]
edalfa Offline
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Nice!

Ed

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#493314 - 03/09/08 04:23 PM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: edalfa]
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Looking up information on this car I stumbled accross this post. I am on my way today to see if my I can look into getting my wifes grandmothers car running again. It is a 1941 buick roadmaster convertible. It was parked and last licensed in 1960. It know it has been painted once to (to red not original color) for safety since an accendent took others close to her she felt this would make it more noticeable and therfore keep from being in an accendent like the one that claimed her loved ones. Other then that is all original and all there. It ran when it was parked and someone in the family was going to "fix" a wiring issue it was having. From what I am told they removed the wiring harness and thats the way it sits. It has been under a carport and covered by a tarp. This is a one owner car the woman that owns it has been a widow for at least 30-40 years and right now is 86 years old. I was asked to look into this car since I own and work on other classics she wants to drive this car at least again someday since it was the car her and her husband bought together. I am sure that if there was any tool kit in this car it is still there. If nobody has figured out what came in this car I can see if I can located it on this car. The question I have is what should I do about the harness that is missing. Go with aftermarked painless kit or try to locate a factory harness. If factory where would I even look for something like this. Sorry for the long post but the history on this car is what excited me the most. Thought I would share. I will take pictures today while I am out there. From the sounds of it, it might become my next resto project. ;\)

Edited by SinisterSpeed (03/09/08 04:25 PM)

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#493392 - 03/09/08 09:42 PM Re: 1941 Buick Tools [Re: SinisterSpeed]
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To me, your post is a bit confusing. If the original wiring harness is completely removed and "missing", you will surely need a shop manual with good wiring diagrams and then get the proper lengths of wiring of the correct size and match. Aftermarket kits are readily available and I am not sure where you would find a NOS harness.

I would also argue that to remove a harness completely and replace it without taking the car apart is not what I would consider "painless', regardless if it was a NOS or "period correct" reproduction (that is correct appearing insulation but of modern materials).

At least that is my opinion. It sure sounds like an interesting project, but you might be faced with a situation to replace enough wiring to get it running on a temporary basis before determining what is needed for restoration.

Good luck and keep us posted. And, or course, welcome to the forum.

John
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