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#471081 - 12/11/07 05:02 PM The NAAP!
24T42 24T42 Member Registered: 02/18/00 Posts: 758 Loc: North Carolina	OK editors! We have just finished the 1st complete year under the NAAP (Newsletter Achievement Awards Program). 1. Did you like working with the guidelines? 2. Do you think the guidelines helped you improve your newsletter? If so, how? 3. What didn't you like and what would change if you could? 4. What do you think needs to be added? or changed? I am posting this as a fellow editor (nothing official here) and was wondering how everyone felt about the NAAP after a year so I thought I would ask. $\:\)$ Judy _________________________ 24T42 (a.k.a - Judy) Brass-Nickel Touring Region Junior AACA AACA 75th Anniversary Web Site
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#471275 - 12/12/07 12:01 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: 24T42]
R W Burgess R W Burgess Long Time Member Registered: 06/13/02 Posts: 10080 Loc: Warsaw, Va.	Judy, personally, I find the new rules easy to follow. You now realize that if you leave something important out of your newsletter, you can pretty well figure what the point losses will be. What bothers me now is that so few AACA Newsletter Editors actually view this site or even the Web Site at all. The information we have available on this web site could make the difference between a nice readable newsletter valuable to regional members and a newsletter with just a couple messages and ads that no one will ever read. This situation is disappointing to me and I will address that at Philly this year! $\:\($ Wayne
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#471296 - 12/12/07 01:00 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: R W Burgess]
Debby Soucia Debby Soucia Member Registered: 06/17/05 Posts: 178	Wayne, I am with you on this one! I am very surprised how many never check here. I try to check once a week to see if any thing been posted. My biggest thing is I don't have room in many of my news letters for the AACA Rummage box that I would like to add. Postage wise I try to keep them at the five pages unless we have done a lot with the club that month. That's what I am going for this year. I have not had any complants but keep geting people that say they can't wait to see whats in it and read it from "cover to cover" as some of the ladys say! Deby _________________________ 1927 Hupmobile 1938 Chrysler Royal 1957 Ford Laundry Truck 1967 Ford Ranchero 1968 Chrysler 300 conv. 1968 Chrysler New Yorker 1975 Bricklin Gullwing 1987 Caddy
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#471298 - 12/12/07 01:02 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: Debby Soucia]
R W Burgess R W Burgess Long Time Member Registered: 06/13/02 Posts: 10080 Loc: Warsaw, Va.	That's great Debby. Some of the Rummage Box articles are short and do not take up a lot of space. Keep that in mind. Wayne
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#471302 - 12/12/07 01:16 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: R W Burgess]
24T42 24T42 Member Registered: 02/18/00 Posts: 758 Loc: North Carolina	Wayne, Unfortunately though the best articles are the longest. $;\)$ In that case, I would suggest that you pick out some meaningful paragraphs and then point the reader to the on-line version where they can read the full article. Judy _________________________ 24T42 (a.k.a - Judy) Brass-Nickel Touring Region Junior AACA AACA 75th Anniversary Web Site
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#471308 - 12/12/07 01:29 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: 24T42]
Debby Soucia Debby Soucia Member Registered: 06/17/05 Posts: 178	I will have to try that Judy but I do have about 1/4 that do not have computers or won't go on line only for family emails. I am going to try in the January one and see what happens. Deby _________________________ 1927 Hupmobile 1938 Chrysler Royal 1957 Ford Laundry Truck 1967 Ford Ranchero 1968 Chrysler 300 conv. 1968 Chrysler New Yorker 1975 Bricklin Gullwing 1987 Caddy
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#471378 - 12/12/07 08:08 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: R W Burgess]
Dynaflash8 Dynaflash8 Member Registered: 03/03/01 Posts: 838 Loc: Sebring, FL USA	Debby, When I was an editor up until about 2001, I was able to send 12 pages folded over and stapled for one stamp, but having them printed on both sides. Wayne and Judy also print on both sides. Putting a newsletter into an envelope is nice, but it costs you lots of space in your newsletter. By the way, the 12 page was a half page, with the address on the other half. Earl
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#471505 - 12/13/07 12:22 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: 24T42]
novaman novaman Member Registered: 06/11/00 Posts: 2395 Loc: Mebane, NC, USA	1. Did you like working with the guidelines? yes- as an editor, you know what the committee is looking at/for. Plus you know that the committtee is looking at them the same way. Example: some committee members could demerit your newsletter because of say it was done digest form, while other members didn't have a problem with it. (I know one editor (not me) many years ago (20+) he'd never win anything as long as he did it digest style. It had to be 8.5x11 in size). 2. Do you think the guidelines helped you improve your newsletter? No (was already doing most everything on the list last year)If so, how? 3. What didn't you like and what would change if you could? Nothing 4. What do you think needs to be added? or changed? Would like to see something in reguards to equaling things a little more between the guy that only puts out four newsletters a year and the person that has to go through this twelves times a year. I think the rerquirment should be min. of six issues. At four issues it is easy to come up with events/stories and have plenty of upcomming events to "advertise". But when you are doing it monthly you don't have as many events from the last issue, you now need 8 more member's stories than the quarterly editor and now you need to be selective as to what events you advertise because of cost of more page each month to advertise as much as the quarterly editor did in one issue. Plus at quarterly, you can't do a really effective job at remindering members about an upcoming event that's 3 months down the road. They'll forget about it by then. Plus your reporting on old news that's up to roughly three months old. Why would I what to read about the New Year's parade we perticapated in when it is late March early April??? Comment: Overall I give the NAAP a big thumbs up. It is something I've heard was needed for years. It puts the editors and committee members on the same page. Edited by R W Burgess (12/13/07 04:50 PM) Edit Reason: Changed colors David, hard to read!!
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#471516 - 12/13/07 01:01 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: 24T42]
BruceW BruceW Member Registered: 02/14/00 Posts: 1701 Loc: Harford County, Maryland	I have to confess... I forgot about the NAAP... I admit that at first, Di and I checked the finished newsletter with the NAAP scoring sheet each month, but we stopped after the second month. As with David, the majority of items on the NAAP were the same that we had already been putting in our newsletter for a number of years. I quit counting points and concentrated on making the best newsletter I could for our members; and the NAAP drifted out of my already questionable memory. Judy posting this thread made me think about it again. I concur with David, that the NAAP guidelines are useful for knowing what the Publications committee is looking for. The guidelines also helps to remove a lot of speculation from the process, which could vary greatly among different reviewers. The NAAP can be an especially good aid for new or fairly new editors. When I first saw the guidlines last year, my main concern was that it seemed to have limited consideration for quality and creativity. (an Excel spreadsheet can present all of the data but is not necessarily that enjoyable to read). I guess that would move back into speculation. At this time, I cannot think of anything that needs to be added. I know the committee put a lot of work in the NAAP and it shows. Good job! _________________________ Bruce Wheeler
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#471623 - 12/13/07 09:07 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: novaman]
Dynaflash8 Dynaflash8 Member Registered: 03/03/01 Posts: 838 Loc: Sebring, FL USA	Bruce: Did you get a letter?
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#471833 - 12/14/07 10:50 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: novaman]
novaman novaman Member Registered: 06/11/00 Posts: 2395 Loc: Mebane, NC, USA	Thanks Wayne !! Now I can't read my own post!! I use "theblues" style sheet for viewing cause it's easy on the eyes, but your blue don't show up on it very well. _________________________ novaman AACA Life member 1962-1965 Chevy II Novas
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#471839 - 12/14/07 11:05 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: novaman]
R W Burgess R W Burgess Long Time Member Registered: 06/13/02 Posts: 10080 Loc: Warsaw, Va.	I actually did that for Earl, David. Heck, you already know what you wrote, right??? $\:D$ Wayne
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#472056 - 12/15/07 09:36 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: R W Burgess]
novaman novaman Member Registered: 06/11/00 Posts: 2395 Loc: Mebane, NC, USA	Can't I forget?? After all I'm over that big four zero mark where everything is suppose to start failing me. Edited by novaman (12/15/07 09:37 PM) Edit Reason: Forgot the R in forget !! _________________________ novaman AACA Life member 1962-1965 Chevy II Novas
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#472094 - 12/16/07 12:22 AM Re: The NAAP! [Re: novaman]
R W Burgess R W Burgess Long Time Member Registered: 06/13/02 Posts: 10080 Loc: Warsaw, Va.	Got twenty years on you, "young fellow"! $;\)$ And, you think you have trouble remembering. Wayne
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#472317 - 12/16/07 08:53 PM Re: The NAAP! [Re: R W Burgess]
novaman novaman Member Registered: 06/11/00 Posts: 2395 Loc: Mebane, NC, USA	Alright you can stop braggin' about how many years you got over me. Believe me, I ain't trying to catch up!!! Now what were we talking about? Think it was ANAP.. no that's the Alaska Native Arts Program Ah, the AANP.. no, that's American Association of Neuropathologists The PAAN.. no, that's the Physician Assistant AIDS Network The APNA.. no, that's the American Psychiatric Nurses Association ( might be useful to have them here but not it) O the NAAP!!! That's it!!! _________________________ novaman AACA Life member 1962-1965 Chevy II Novas
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