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#463160 - 11/09/07 04:10 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: Steve Moskowitz]
Bhigdog Bhigdog Member Registered: 10/23/01 Posts: 1459 Loc: Eastern PA	But Steve, I have my YOM plate held on by a belt, suspenders, velcro, staples and duct tape! 8-) 8-) 8-). _________________________ Bob Beck 39 Chev PU 69 big block Corvette 55 Buick 66C 57 Buick 46C 55 Olds S-88 56 Chrysler St. Regis AACA, BCA, WPC, USHGA
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#463182 - 11/09/07 05:35 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: Bhigdog]
Steve Moskowitz Steve Moskowitz Long Time Member Registered: 11/01/00 Posts: 2732 Loc: Hershey, Pa.	Yes but you need to take your plates off and then velcro, duct tape, suspenders, etc. in a drawer to make sure you don't end up behind bars!
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#463197 - 11/09/07 06:34 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: Steve Moskowitz]
Bhigdog Bhigdog Member Registered: 10/23/01 Posts: 1459 Loc: Eastern PA	Yeah, I guess I will.............. _________________________ Bob Beck 39 Chev PU 69 big block Corvette 55 Buick 66C 57 Buick 46C 55 Olds S-88 56 Chrysler St. Regis AACA, BCA, WPC, USHGA
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#464253 - 11/14/07 12:43 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: Dave@Moon]
TheMoneyPit TheMoneyPit Member Registered: 03/10/03 Posts: 178	Originally Posted By: Dave@Moon In Ohio, and I believe all other YOM states, the YOM plate is registered to the car offically. You may or may not need a current plate kept in the car (like in OH), but certainly the police have to be able to ID the car as belonging to you using the numbers displayed. You can bet if PA has OKed YOM plates it isn't a casual, "go ahead and hang whatever you want on your car" type thing! Try again - this is exactly how Maine handles it - any PAIR of YOM plates can be displayed so long as you keep your active modern plates under your seat with all up-to-date stickers on them... There is no way to cross reference a car to the plate on the front since the number is not registered! Most of the Police officers do not know how the law actually reads so I tell everyone I know running these plates to keep a copy of the title/section with their plates and registration to avoid the hard a**es giving out tickets and wasting court time. Here is the link:State of Maine Statutes 29-a Sec 457
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#464342 - 11/14/07 08:01 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: TheMoneyPit]
MCHinson MCHinson Member Registered: 06/27/06 Posts: 756 Loc: Wilmington, NC	This is also how NC handles it. You can display any year of manufacture plate and keep the current registration plate in the car. I also make sure that all of our chapter members have access to a copy of the legislation, just in case they run into an officer who is not familiar with the statute. As a Police Lieutenant, I would rather see the displayed year of manufacture plate registered so I can run the tag by computer. This would help facilitate recovery in the case of a stolen antique vehicle. But, I am not going to fuss much about it, since most of the antique vehicles are being operated by good honest citizens. _________________________ Matthew C. Hinson 1929 Model A Phaeton AACA, MAFCA, MARC
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#464359 - 11/14/07 08:55 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: MCHinson]
ted sweet ted sweet Member Registered: 09/27/01 Posts: 941 Loc: albany NY	In NY the YOM are the plates actually registered to the car, thieir number is what appears on the registration etc. _________________________ 1974 Plymouth Cuda-360 Auto 1991 Chysler Lebaron Vert 1973 Dodge Dart Swinger-318 Auto 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T-440 Auto 1968 Chrysler 300 Convertible-440 Auto 1994 Ford Taurus SHO 1966 Chrysler Newport-383 auto
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#464398 - 11/14/07 10:53 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: TheMoneyPit]
Dave@Moon Dave@Moon Long Time Member Registered: 12/14/99 Posts: 7372 Loc: Fairfield (Cincinnati), OH	Quote: There is no way to cross reference a car to the plate on the front since the number is not registered! If that's true get ready for it to change pronto. If traffic enforement cameras don't change that, parking enforcement will! Besides, if your car is stolen it's already untraceable as soon as it rounds the corner. "I'm sorry officer, it must be some other red '56 Chevy you're looking for. I found..., I mean I keep a copy of the law that lets me run these untraceable plates. See!" (I assume you're allowed to display both YOM plates. Your post could read either both plates are YOM or just the front plate.) Edited by Dave@Moon (11/14/07 11:00 PM) Edit Reason: added last sentence _________________________ *"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."*
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#464441 - 11/15/07 10:58 AM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: Dave@Moon]
MCHinson MCHinson Member Registered: 06/27/06 Posts: 756 Loc: Wilmington, NC	NC only uses a rear plate. The YOM plate can displayed and it is untraceble to the car, but the valid registered plate has to be kept in the car along with the registration card. So, it is untraceable at a glance, but traceable after a traffic stop. As a Police Lieutenant, I would not mind seeing the YOM plate registered to the vehicle for obvious reasons, but I also can't give you an example of a YOM plate being used to facilitate the theft of an antique vehicle or any other crime. _________________________ Matthew C. Hinson 1929 Model A Phaeton AACA, MAFCA, MARC
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#464467 - 11/15/07 01:21 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: MCHinson]
TheMoneyPit TheMoneyPit Member Registered: 03/10/03 Posts: 178	Yes, both YOM plates are on the car in Maine with the valid plates in the vehicle. To get a title there is a visit from one of the State Police Motor Vehicle Inspection Division (or something like that) who comes to the house and photographs every corner of the thing plus all numbers on the vehicle, motor, body and vin. He even took a picture of the key number on my car. As far as theft is concerned this doccumentation would be far more valuable in court as compared to the plates.
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#464792 - 11/16/07 09:10 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: MCHinson]
Dave@Moon Dave@Moon Long Time Member Registered: 12/14/99 Posts: 7372 Loc: Fairfield (Cincinnati), OH	Quote: As a Police Lieutenant, I would not mind seeing the YOM plate registered to the vehicle for obvious reasons, Your neighbor state to the north being chief among them, many people abuse antique registrations severely. Combining this abuse with an untracable plate must be a monumental headache for you. As a police officer, what recourse would you have with a recalcitrant illegal parker with such an advantage (assuming he's smart enough not to antagonize the same officer/beat repeatedly or park in tow-away zones)? _________________________ *"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."*
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#464793 - 11/16/07 09:12 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: TheMoneyPit]
Dave@Moon Dave@Moon Long Time Member Registered: 12/14/99 Posts: 7372 Loc: Fairfield (Cincinnati), OH	Quote: As far as theft is concerned this doccumentation would be far more valuable in court as compared to the plates. My concern would be the "value" of anonymity afforded the thief using your or his own untraceable plate. Once you're in court the damage is well past done. _________________________ *"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."*
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#464802 - 11/16/07 09:47 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: Dave@Moon]
MCHinson MCHinson Member Registered: 06/27/06 Posts: 756 Loc: Wilmington, NC	Like I said, Here in NC, I have never seen an example of an antique tag being used to facilitate any illegal act. I have never seen your scenario of it being used to avoid a parking ticket. In this day, if a parking scoffaw tried to use a YOM plate in that manner, the other tickets would show up by computer and probably get the car towed immediately anyway. In any case, most but not all vehicles would still have a Serial Number or VIN visible for identification if needed. _________________________ Matthew C. Hinson 1929 Model A Phaeton AACA, MAFCA, MARC
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#464837 - 11/17/07 12:18 AM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: MCHinson]
Dave@Moon Dave@Moon Long Time Member Registered: 12/14/99 Posts: 7372 Loc: Fairfield (Cincinnati), OH	Quote: In any case, most but not all vehicles would still have a Serial Number or VIN visible for identification if needed. Only after the 1970 model year. Virtually no car prior to 1970 had a visible VIN. Also, due to indentiy theft and fraud issues there is a serious effort to repeal this requirement and have VIN numbers hidden within the car again (see www.car-crime.com ). Many groups now recommend their clients tape over the VIN numbers, although the threat isn't really that terrible yet. It's also of questionable legality in some states. In PA some police groups recommend using a piece of paper to cover the VIN when parked, but it must be removed when in motion by law. I'm glad to know at least that a scofflaw untraceable plate can still be kept track of by computer. Imagine the fun at the impound lot though. Trying to get the court order, to unlock the car, to obtain the VIN, to identify the owner, to collect the fines. I think that any state that allows an untraceable plate to be driven legally on the road is nuts. Even more nuts is what might happen to such a car out of state. I wonder how long it will be before someone from Maine or some other such state has their car impounded out of state because a registration check didn't check out (and the owner was not around to pull out the real plate, and what to the officer will be some other state's law allowing the old plates' use in Maine). Frankly I wouldn't risk a YOM plate under such circumstances. _________________________ *"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."*
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#465010 - 11/17/07 06:26 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: Dave@Moon]
ted sweet ted sweet Member Registered: 09/27/01 Posts: 941 Loc: albany NY	In NY the VIN is on registration sticker on the Windsheild . _________________________ 1974 Plymouth Cuda-360 Auto 1991 Chysler Lebaron Vert 1973 Dodge Dart Swinger-318 Auto 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T-440 Auto 1968 Chrysler 300 Convertible-440 Auto 1994 Ford Taurus SHO 1966 Chrysler Newport-383 auto
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#465448 - 11/19/07 02:04 PM Re: Pennsylvania Year of Manufacture Plates [Re: ted sweet]
Greg Hiller Greg Hiller Member Registered: 06/06/07 Posts: 19 Loc: Chicago	Here in Illinois the laws are somewhat relaxed. I pulled this quote from the Secretary of State’s website. “Historical License Plates, representing the model year, may be displayed on an antique vehicle; however current Antique Vehicle/Motorcycle plates and registration ID card must be kept in the vehicle at all times”. We keep everyhting in the car at all times, I don't think the cops have looked at us twice. _________________________ WOKR
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