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#463018 - 11/09/07 06:58 AM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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Paul Gronhovd
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The woodworking can be a challenge but rewarding when it goes good. I started out by making paper patterns based on the old wood frame. Some parts of the old frame are vague or nonexistent. I look for ways to cross reference those areas from books. Sometimes it just comes down to trial and error. The paper patterns for the sill would be available to loan out.
Paul
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#463853 - 11/12/07 07:48 PM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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Paul Gronhovd
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Here is how the crossmember attaches to the hinge pillars.
Paul
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#464805 - 11/16/07 09:52 PM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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George K.
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Registered: 10/14/07
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Looking great Paul. What steps are you taking first? Are you just dry-fitting everything outside of the frame, then re-assembling everything on the frame?
Thanks,
George
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#465064 - 11/17/07 10:26 PM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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Paul Gronhovd
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The hinge pillars need to be plumb and the cowl needs to fit snug. So that has required a lot of dry-fitting and the cowl has been off many times. I also have the sill off because there are a few things to finish. Now that the sill fits well I can glue it together. Also I think it is important to seal the wood so that it will not absorb excess moisture. I think I will spray a coat of black epoxy on the wood for that purpose. Some people use spar varnish. What are you planning to do?
Paul
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#465229 - 11/18/07 05:34 PM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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George K.
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At this point I haven't decided what coating I'll use because I haven't started restoring my car yet. I'm just reading the forums.
George
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#465253 - 11/18/07 06:55 PM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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Paul Gronhovd
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When you start on the hinge pillars there are some key areas to look for. I am attaching a close up of where the cross member meets the hinge pillar. Note there is an angled rabbit groove that tilts the crossmember.
The Buick technical advisor Beuford said that he used spar varnish to protect the wood frame on the cars he has restored. I decided to follow that advice and besides it is more fun that painting the wood black. It is important to have fun doing this restoration stuff.
Paul
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#465512 - 11/19/07 08:09 PM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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Jim28-27
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Registered: 11/19/07
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Paul,
I really appreciate the pictures. I also need to replace the wood in my 1928-27 and I would like to see more pictures as you proceed. It will give me a better idea of what I will need to do.
Jim Jbates2@yahoo.com
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#465822 - 11/20/07 09:46 PM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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Thriller
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Nice work Paul...looks like the car is making progress from the condition of the car in BCA PWD Member's Buicks - I got the '30-'36 photos up on Sunday...slowly making progress on the site.
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#466108 - 11/22/07 07:21 AM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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Paul Gronhovd
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The photo submitted to the BCA PWD was from the eBay auction 1-1/2 years ago. There was a previous attempt to redo some of the wood in the car. Fortunately enough of the original wood was saved to determine how the frame was designed to fit together. My goal is to finish in 3 years. So far so good.
Paul
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#497971 - 03/28/08 08:28 PM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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Paul Gronhovd
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I had a situation with the cowl and door pillars that took some time to resolve. Turns out the front angle brackets were pulling on the cowl in an uneven fashion. The 3 cover plates on the door pillars were what provided the information needed to correct the problem. When the nail holes of the cover plates were lined up with the cowl it could be determined that the cowl needed to be raised on one side. The covers also position the hinges and the top bracket. This allows the correct height of the door pillar. Now that the moldings on the body parts are lining up I can continue the frame by building around the door. So the door pillar covers were a big help in getting the layout correct. I have included photos that illustrate this.
Paul
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#497985 - 03/28/08 09:06 PM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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Paul Gronhovd
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Here is another attempt to attach some photos.
Paul
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#498646 - 03/31/08 08:49 PM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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George K.
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Thanks Paul for the information. This will be a lot of help to me. The photos look great. Will you be using nails or screws to attach the cover plates to the door pillar?
George
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#498722 - 04/01/08 06:27 AM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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Paul Gronhovd
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Hello George,
I am using ring nails with flat heads that I bought from Bob's Automobilia. They are made to stay put so I wait until everything is lining up before nailing. I am even holding off on nailing the top of the cowl until I check on the clearance of the doors once the body is attached to the frame.
Paul
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#500188 - 04/06/08 10:54 PM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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HarryJ
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Paul.....I envy your woodworking ability! IBy the way I also used spar varnish to protect the wood in my car.
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#505983 - 04/29/08 09:57 AM
Re: Restoring 1930 Buick 46S
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kevinc
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Hello, I have joined this group because my father has terminal lung cancer and is unable to join. He has a 1930 Buick 46S also and has been looking for others that have one also. He was trying to restore his but was unsure how. Any and all information on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. The car was actually running about 20 years ago but has a cracked block now. Any suggestions as to what to do with the car? Thanks,
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