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#423496 - 05/03/07 11:11 AM
new law in pa? is this true?
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ted sweet
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Registered: 09/27/01
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Loc: albany NY
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saw on another website:
If you live in PA, your rights to own and customize a car is in serious jeopardy. In January, 2007, PENNDOT implemented a new "ENHANCED VEHICLE INSPECTION PROGRAM" known as EVIP. This program was developed and enacted without any public exposure, debate, input, or knowledge, just like the insideous midnight pay raise that they tried to foist upon us. Please read about what is going on, or you will soon be paying huge amounts in fines, and new procedures.
Basically, PENNDOT began to develop a program to regulate and identify problem cars, like reconstructions, flood damaged vehicles, etc. Unfortunately, as wilth eveything that the state decides to stick its nose into, it went awry, and some brilliant idiot decided to include any and all cars that are not absolute, 100% stock vehicles.
Here's how it goes. Once the plan gets fully implemented, there will be a network of special inspection stations across the state, and you will have to take your custom, collector, hotrod, streetrod, etc (Or any vehicle tagged by a state trooper as not being 100% stock) to one of these stations for inspection. Inspections may range in price from $100 up to $500, but that is still unknown. If your car passes inspection, you will be issued (And have to pay for) a new title, and the specifics of your vehicle will be entered into a data base.
Now here's where the fun comes in. A state trooper may pull you over at any time, even if you are legally licensed, inspected, etc, and doing absolutely nothing wrong. He will print out a list of specifics from the data base, and compare them to your vehicle. If ANYTHING has changed on your vehicle, he will fine you, declare that your title is now invalid, and force you to go through the expensive inspection and retitling process all over again, and you will not be able to use your car until you comply. Listen to what I said. ANY CHANGE IN YOUR VEHICLE can result in a fine, and costly reinspection and retitleing. So that means that if you change the size of your tires, put on different wheels, add air shocks, add a lift kit, add ground effects, ANYTHING, you are in trouble.
This will affect EVERY SINGLE CAR OWNER AND DRIVER IN THE STATE OF PA, NEW CARS AND OLD. If you buy a brand new truck and put bigger tires on it, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE NEW LAWS. If you buy a tuner and put ground effects on it, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE NEW LAWS. If you buy a motorcycle and put custom pipes on it, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE NEW LAWS. If you replace the engine in your cars with another size engine, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE NEW LAWS. If you repaint your car, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE NEW LAWS. If your car develops rust, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE NEW LAWS. If you put headers on your car, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE NEW LAWS. If you change the exhaust on your car, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE NEW LAWS. If you change the air induction system on your car, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE NEW LAWS. I repeat, anything that deviates from 100% stock, or changes your vehicle in any way from the last time it was titled, IS IN VIOLATION OF THE NEW LAWS.
This is a savage, and brutal attack on the drivers of PA, and especially the car enthusiasts in this state.
What can you do? If you are concerned (You should be FURIOUS!), there are things you can do. Groups are starting to form, but we need all of the help and support we can get from all of you. This is a battle that will depend on grassroots support. No one will fight for us or help us, unless we show that we will not take this sort of thing lying down. Car clubs are starting to rally, petitions are starting to be passed around. People are starting to complain to their elected officials. I urge every driver in PA to sign one of the petitions, and join one of the groups. Volunteer a little of your time and service, or it will untimately cost you much more. Call, email, or write to the state senators and representatives and tell them that you want this stopped. The people that are implementing this insideous program are appointed, but the politicians are elected, so tell them straight out that you are so mad, that if they don't do anything about this, you will not vote for them in the next election.
There has been almost no information about these new laws let out to the public. The state is trying to get inspection stations to sign a contract to become one of these enhanced inspection stations, so if you, or someone you know owns an inspections station, tell them to refuse to join up. If they read the fine print of the contract, they will find out that if they accept the terms of the contract, THEY WILL AGREE TO ACCEPT LIABILITY FOR ANY CURRENT AND FUTURE PROBLEMS RELATED TO OR CAUSED BY ANY VEHICLE THEY INSPECT.
A friend of mine, and longtime car enthusiast, Bob Pisaneschi is locally spearheading the fight against the new laws. He has already been in contact with State Representative Dan Surra, who was totally unaware of the extent of PENNDOTS plans. Mr Surra, a car enthusiast himself, was quick to promote the creation of a MOTORSPORTS CAUCUS in the state legislature, to protect the rights of car enthusiasts in the state of PA. Every driver in PA needs to contact MR. Surra (814-375-4688), and give him your support, and tell him that you don't agree with the new Enhanced Vehicle Inspection Program, and its impact on drivers, car owners, and car enthusiasts in the state of PA. Every driver should also contact his or her own State Representatives and Senators, and voice these same concerns to them. If you would like Bob Pisaneschi to talk to your group or car club, to learn the true extent and potential impact of these new laws, and to see how you can help, PM me, and I will put you in touch with him.
Please, I urge every driver and car owner in PA, and especially those of us who own custom, collector, streetrod, hotrod, or any other type of special vehicle, to get involved in the fight now, and not let the state of PA pull these Gestapo-like tactics on the law abiding drivers and car enthusaists of PA. If you don;t do it, no one else will, and you will have no one else to blame, but yourself, when collector and special interest vehicles become a thing of the past. This is truely a sad day in the history of this great state, when a decent, law-abiding interest and hobby like ours is targeted for destruction by a few self-serving, misinformed, beurocratic bozos like the ones who developed these new policies.
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#423497 - 05/03/07 12:29 PM
Re: new law in pa? is this true?
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Restorer32
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Registered: 07/25/02
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Loc: South Central Pa.
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This has all the markings of an internet legend. If it isn't can you please give us the # of the legislation? The state cannot pass legislation without it being "let out to the public". All votes on legislation must by law be taken in a meeting which is open to the public. Ever hear of reporters? Amazing how this BS gets started and then assumes a life of its own. Don't you think the AACA or the AAA would know about this? If it's so hush hush how did you find out about it? Now it is true that PA is about to pass a law totally banning streetrods and Harleys from the highways of PA. IT must be true, I read it on the internet.
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#423498 - 05/03/07 05:13 PM
Re: new law in pa? is this true?
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ted sweet
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Registered: 09/27/01
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#423500 - 05/03/07 11:00 PM
Re: new law in pa? is this true?
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nearchoclatetown
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Registered: 08/29/02
Posts: 1986
Loc: pa.
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The short answer is NO.
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#423501 - 05/03/07 11:02 PM
Re: new law in pa? is this true?
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Dave@Moon
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#423502 - 05/04/07 10:32 AM
Re: new law in pa? is this true?
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ted sweet
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Registered: 09/27/01
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Loc: albany NY
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http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...;gonew=1#UNREAD
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#423503 - 05/04/07 04:48 PM
Re: new law in pa? is this true?
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nearchoclatetown
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Registered: 08/29/02
Posts: 1986
Loc: pa.
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Fast Eddie and PennDOT ARE doing some stupid things, but once again this is not one of them. A newly REconstructed vehicle only has to go to the enhanced inspection station the first time. The station will do all paperwork and even issue the new VIN tag. What is bad is the enhanced station is liable for all your work, proof of ownership, saftey check, etc. Everything goes back on the station. ALL safety equipment from the year of MANUF. has to work, unlike regular state inspection. This came from someone pretty close to the system. The laws that are being misquoted here have been in place for ever, as regards to high lift kits, non-factory hoods, etc. The state inspection book used to even use a VW with a Rolls Royce hood as needing a reconstructed title as an example. If you want to get worked up about something worry about Kathleen McGintey{sp}being in charge for the next 4 years.
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#423505 - 05/07/07 06:33 AM
Re: new law in pa? is this true?
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nearchoclatetown
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Registered: 08/29/02
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Charlie, the part being misquoted is the criteria for a reconstructed vehicle as being new. This hasn't changed for quite a while. The only thing differant is putting the burden or responsibilty on the inspection mechanic. I have no idea why a mechanic would want to put an inspection sticker on a car and be responsible for welds, or wiring, etc. for the life of the vehicle. I've spoken to several ispection mechanics and they all turned down the enhanced program.
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#423507 - 05/15/07 12:52 PM
Re: new law in pa? is this true?
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HurstGN
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Registered: 03/05/03
Posts: 198
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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This is a fiasco that has gotten way out of hand. Look at the document Charlier linked to http://www.dot10.state.pa.us/pdotforms/inspections/enhancedstations.pdf and you'll see a handful of stations listed for Allegheny County. I live near Auto Repair Unlimited and dropped in one day when I saw they put up the new sign for the Enhanced Emissions Inspection. I talked to the nice folks there and found out some interesting things...like not all the places on that list will do the enhanced inspection. Some on the list didn't even apply to do this. They have no idea how they got on the list to begin with. Oh, how about this one...I was lead to believe this new law applied to street rods....wrong. Auto Repair Unlimited had 2 vehicles there that were considered "totalled" by the insurance company. These looked like perfectly fine cars to me. One was a newer Mustang and one was a 90's Olds Cutlass. It seems if you buy back a totalled car and rebuild it, it's not simply an R title anymore...it has to undergo the new enhanced inspection too. These 2 cars were in the shop for months (<<== plural) trying to get all the paperwork and bits and pieces approved just to drive them home. It's a real PITA to do this. So why does Auto Repair Unlimited go to the trouble? They understand how we feel about our cars. They're car people like us and felt somebody had to step up to help us get our cars back on the road again. Real good folks.
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