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#331787 - 01/31/06 08:55 AM Marquee misused
West Peterson Offline
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The following is merely an observance and is meant to be helpful. I am not trying to be pretentious, or to point fingers (God knows I make plenty of mistakes).

Every once in a while, I see in one of the regional newsletters (as well as National publications), the misuse of the word "marquee."
According to Webster's Ninth, "marquee" is a large tent set up for an outdoor party... or a permanent canopy projecting over an entrance (as of a hotel or theater). It has nothing to do with describing an automobile.

I understand why this is happening.

When speaking of a particular car, it is often referred as a marque (pronounced mark). For instance, "That particular marque of car is considered to be extremely collectible". However, when someone is writing the same sentence on the computer, using Microsoft Word (or possibly another application), the application's spell checker doesn't recognize the word, "marque", and asks the writer if he/she wants to change the spelling to "marquee." It seems many people are quickly checking "okay," and going on with their story.

Webster's Ninth, however, does recognize the word "marque," as being "a brand or make of a product."
There's also another seperate listing and definition for the word "marque" that has nothing to do with automobiles ("to mark, seize as pledge... reprisal, retaliation." I bring this up merely to point that MS Word (and any other word application) has completely dropped the ball by not including the word(s) in its dictionary.

The problem has now worked its way into language as well, as I am now often hearing people SAY the word MARQUEE when they really mean marque.
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#331788 - 01/31/06 11:41 AM Re: Marquee misused [Re: West Peterson]
R W Burgess Administrator Offline
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West, very good information. I have trouble spelling as well as prononcing( pronouncing ) that work(word) myself.

A little information on my other "problems". I'm not a good typist, never took it in school. Who would have thought I even needed that skill when I was young and either thinking of truckdriving or farming for a living.

Now, with the computer hobby throw ( thrown ) at me , first by Earl Beauchamp(replacing him as an editor), then of course as moderator of this forum, I had to work hard and fast to improve myself. Since I never took typing in school, my right hand gets in front of my left(I'm righthanded), I make many typos, for instance, form should always be "from". An occasional "X", or "Z" gets in the way of my printing. Fat figures?(fingers, see what I mean!)

So, as West stated, you can't even rely on a speel(spell) checker to correct your mistakes.

What to do??? A proof reader is called for, whetehr(whether) a family memebr(member) or friend. It's really strange in my case. I can see a word, pretty much any word, and know for w(a) faxt(fact, sorry)that it is spelled incorrectly. But, in most cases, a dictionary is called for, or my wife, or even 16 year old Mike. I'm serious, he can speel(spell) better than me in most cases.

So, don't be embarrassed by your diction or spelling, just get a good proof reader to go over your newsletter. Everybody makes mistakes, as West said.

Even you, West?

PS, Ok guys, my wife has critiqued my message, letters in red.

Wayne


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#331789 - 01/31/06 03:19 PM Re: Marquee misused [Re: R W Burgess]
Debby Soucia Offline
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Like you Wayne, I never typed but needed to put our company on the computer for book work. So I started one finger at a time. Now I am not great but use two hands!!
I use a proof reader, a club member who checks over my stuff before I start printing. I use spell check first but she has found mistakes, 6 in this last issue.:(:(
I am trying to get better but glad she will still do it.
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#331790 - 01/31/06 04:25 PM Re: Marquee misused [Re: Debby Soucia]
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My dictionary defines "mark" as "An inscription or name placed on an article to signify ownership, quality, manufacture or origin". So, are we being pretentious when we say "marque"? Also when a dog pee's on my tire is he marking my marque or marqueing my mark?
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#331791 - 01/31/06 05:29 PM Re: Marquee misused [Re: Bhigdog]
West Peterson Offline
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Quote:

My dictionary defines "mark" as "An inscription or name placed on an article to signify ownership, quality, manufacture or origin". So, are we being pretentious when we say "marque"? Also when a dog pee's on my tire is he marking my marque or marqueing my mark?




That's funny. But no, it wouldn't be pretentious, as they have two entirely different meanings. "mark", as you pointed out, means to "take ownership", such as the dog claiming ownership to your car's tire. So the dog would indeed be marking your marque.
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#331792 - 01/31/06 05:55 PM Re: Marquee misused [Re: West Peterson]
R W Burgess Administrator Offline
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That's good, West.

Wayne

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#331793 - 02/01/06 11:03 AM Re: Marquee misused [Re: West Peterson]
AlK Offline
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West:
I think you will also find that MSWORD in addition to pointing out your/others spelling mistakes, it also gives you a list of words that it thinks you might want to use. On that same drop down window it also gives you the opportunity to add a word to MSWORDS internal dictionary. Once you do that you will always have it. Of course to add the word one would have to know that is the proper word to use. Keep in mind our educational system has been sorely declining in the basic essentials over the last few years.
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#331794 - 02/01/06 11:41 AM Re: Marquee misused [Re: West Peterson]
D Binger Offline
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West,

Remember, If you cant spell a word at least three or four different ways, it ain't worth using.

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#331795 - 02/01/06 12:40 PM Re: Marquee misused [Re: D Binger]
West Peterson Offline
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Quote:

West,
Remember, If you cant spell a word at least three or four different ways, it ain't worth using.




Dan
Don't tell my boss this, but I've always gone by a similar credo, that if you can't think of more than one way to spell a word, you're pretty narrow minded.
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#331796 - 02/01/06 12:41 PM Re: Marquee misused [Re: AlK]
West Peterson Offline
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Quote:

West:
I think you will also find that MSWORD in addition to pointing out your/others spelling mistakes, it also gives you a list of words that it thinks you might want to use. On that same drop down window it also gives you the opportunity to add a word to MSWORDS internal dictionary. Once you do that you will always have it. Of course to add the word one would have to know that is the proper word to use. Keep in mind our educational system has been sorely declining in the basic essentials over the last few years.



You're correct, and I'm familiar with adding words into the dictionary. You want to make sure that the word you're adding is spelled correctly first.
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#331797 - 02/01/06 12:55 PM Re: Marquee misused [Re: West Peterson]
R W Burgess Administrator Offline
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West, What do you know about Corel's Word Perfect programs and how or why can't I convert them over. My new Corel program is useless when trying to access my old word documents in my old HP machine. You can pm me, if you like.

Wayne

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#331798 - 02/03/06 12:22 PM Re: Marquee misused [Re: R W Burgess]
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Registered: 01/10/01
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I found a similar problem when I got my computer with XP Pro on it where it has business word as opposed to the home version. Not interchangable, had problems with stuff I saved as well.
Have you tried emailing Corel Tech support with that problem?
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel3/Section/Display&sid=1047022940762
At the bottom of the page I noticed a 'OEM software Dell Wordperct12' link, if this would be the correct application.
Maybe you can get some answers there.
Dawn
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#331799 - 02/03/06 01:10 PM Re: Marquee misused [Re: Moepar]
R W Burgess Administrator Offline
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Thanks Dawn, I'll try that.

Wayne

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#331800 - 02/03/06 08:27 PM Re: Marquee misused [Re: R W Burgess]
Moepar Offline
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Your welcome, Wayne. I have had several run ins with my old computer (and the new one), know how aggrevating it can be. I hope you get the info you need.
D
PS-by the way, ran old computer over with my '71 300. Not exactly productive, but boy did it feel good!
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#331801 - 02/03/06 10:10 PM Re: Marquee misused [Re: Moepar]
R W Burgess Administrator Offline
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Dawn, the old Windows ME still works and is used monthly for newsletter publication, but the extension cord wouldn't run with me to Pennsylvania and North!

Wayne

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