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#495900 - 03/20/08 12:47 PM
Re: Attention Region & Chapter Web Masters
[Re: novaman]
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gagliaj
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Registered: 12/09/99
Posts: 28
Loc: Zoar, Ohio USA
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I am pretty much in agreement with the comments concerning evaluation programs for newsletters and web sites, I think it is a stretch comparing it to our class judging system for cars, however, except in the case where you don't get extra points for over restoration as you shouldn't with all the fancy stuff put in a web site. I'm a pretty simple person so when I look at things like newsletters and web sites I look for appearance, message, content and it's connection with the members. We do all of this (hopefully) for the benefit of our members not for self gradification. Each region and chapter has its own identity and "personallity" so newsletters and sites should be tailored to their members and potential future members. Web sites really need to communicate, connect and advertise the club. I think Terry Bond said, I look at each site as if I was a potential new member that moved into the area and I was looking for an antique car club to possibly join...what message do I get from the site? Unlike most newsletters the web sites are accessible by anyone, even non-region or chapter members. An evaluation system provides guidance for web masters, based on best practices learned, it provides a level playing field for all club web masters ( big, small, rich or poor) and it creates some objectives and recognition levels for the web master and local club to set your sights on. We are really just discussing how detailed a system we need to evaluate these elements. Thanks
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#495955 - 03/20/08 04:37 PM
Re: Attention Region & Chapter Web Masters
[Re: Terry Bond]
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Jay Wolf
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Registered: 06/08/00
Posts: 589
Loc: Vincennes, In USA
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I think it is a hard compare different regions. We are a small region made up of mostly older enthusiasts. We have 5 members that have E-mail address listed in our club roster and at least one of those has email though their grandson because they don't use computers. Our site averages 5 pageloads a day, mostly due to someone searching and finding it by mistake. Less than 20 sec stays. I post pictures of all our events we have and attend. True, I don't spend a lot of time on it, it has no frames or flash but it serves our clubs purpose. Our club is rural and some members have dial up and all the flash just slows them down. Our club does not publish a news letter. Our secretary does send out postcards before meeting and events. I host and manage our webpage it does not cost the Region one cent. I have had a few people contact me concerning joining our Region and a few have even attend one meeting but unfortunately no new members. We have about 3, me being one who uses the page to see when the next meeting is or to show some of pictures. It works for us. So to put in Class judging term I don’t think our Crosley Farm King need the same shinny paint as some other region Duesenberg to be a winner.
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#495962 - 03/20/08 05:18 PM
Re: Attention Region & Chapter Web Masters
[Re: Jay Wolf]
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R W Burgess
Long Time Member
Registered: 06/13/02
Posts: 10064
Loc: Warsaw, Va.
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So to put in Class judging term I don’t think our Crosley Farm King need the same shinny paint as some other region Duesenberg to be a winner.
Jay, you don't need the shiney paint to get the job done. An achievement program would be more about who and how a web site gets the job done, rather then how pretty it is.
I've been working with the Newsletter Achievement Awards Program (NAAP) for 2 years now, and there are, of course, points to be made for color pictures, and other options that large regions have in their newsletters, but by and far the biggest gains made in points, are for content and material that appeals to the members. After all, if it's not appealing to regional members, then it won't be read.
We have seminars at the Annual Meeting each year in Philadelphia that cover newsletters. Maybe we need to think about promoting web sites each year, too. 
New ideas promote good businesses! 
Wayne
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R W Burgess, (just call me Wayne) Editor-Northern Neck Region of Virginia AACA #126352 Life Member
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#496486 - 03/23/08 12:10 AM
Re: Attention Region & Chapter Web Masters
[Re: gagliaj]
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novaman
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Registered: 06/11/00
Posts: 2395
Loc: Mebane, NC, USA
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I think it is a stretch comparing it to our class judging system for cars My statement was regarding the calling this a contest or achivement program.
I used the class judging thing because as you and I know the cars start at 400 points and is judged soley on the car's merit, not compared to the one next to it and the scores fall where they do as it what award you get. Yet some people get completely bent out of shape that the cars are competing and judged against each other.
The point I was trying to make is no matter what it is called, it can be used as a indicator of how good of a job you are doing regardless of what awards others gets as long as you don't get hung up on it being life or death to achive the master/excellent status.
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novaman AACA Life member 1962-1965 Chevy II Novas
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#500250 - 04/07/08 12:52 PM
Re: Attention Region & Chapter Web Masters
[Re: boblove]
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Brenda Shore
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Registered: 08/02/03
Posts: 111
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I wanted to make a point to your posting, aligned with Joe and Terry's response. I have been reviewing the web sites for 7 or 8 years now (my goodness that is a long time). Anyway I can assure you that flashy and expensive is definitely not one of the things we look at when reviewing the site. I for one have an issue with things that flash and/or scroll on-line since I have sensitivity to that type of thing. Therefore it is much more important that the basic information is included. Basic information includes the following:
1. What is the club about? 2. How to get involved? Who to contact, where are the meetings, what is going on? 3. That the site is currect - VERY important.
I know that Joe will continue to add information about how the judging is accomplished but for now, suffice it to say, bigger is not always better.
Hope this helps a little bit. Brenda
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#505812 - 04/28/08 05:08 PM
Re: Attention Region & Chapter Web Masters
[Re: Terry Bond]
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Azbluewhale
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Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 28
Loc: Tucson, AZ
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Bob,
I took a look at your Tallahassee Region Website and it looks great to me! I like the layout and photos. The only thing I noticed that might have "demoted" you from Excellence was the absense of contact information for club officers. At least it wasn't obvious to me. And I have seen the same thing happen to the Tucson Region website since 2006. Ours has dropped from Excellence to Merit without any significant changes in content or appearance. The only thing I can think of is that someone doing an online review must have logged on one time before I had a chance to remove some outdated activities. I try to update the site once a week but sometimes that's just not possible. We must also keep in mind that the folks doing the evaluations are also fellow club members and volunteers and I'm sure they only want the best for our websites and newsletters.
Roy Ireland Webmaster, Tucson Region
Edited by Azbluewhale (04/28/08 05:10 PM)
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