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#541296 - 09/30/08 04:46 PM 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans
scott12180 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/04
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Hi all,

I've been researching the Century for 1937 and have an idea that I wonder if someone really sharp could support or refute.

The Century is generally thought to use the 126-inch wheelbase while the Special used the 122-inch wheelbase. Might it be possible that the Slantback Sedans for 1937 (at least) used the 122 inch wheelbase whereas the Humpback Sedans used the slightly longer 126-inch wheelbase?

What do you think? Anyone have a 1937 Slantback Century (a confirmed Century) who could measure their wheelbase???

Thanks very much --- Scott

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#541327 - 09/30/08 08:10 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: scott12180]
Mark Shaw Online
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Scott,
According to The "Standard Catalog of American Cars", The Century was only available in the 60 series with a 126" wheelbase.
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#541423 - 10/01/08 09:06 AM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: Mark Shaw]
Matt Harwood Offline
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Registered: 10/09/01
Posts: 1976
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There's no way that a Century would use anything other than the 126" chassis, regardless of the body installed on it. When I was looking for my Century, I found a lot of sedanettes where the owners didn't know exactly what they had--one even tried to convince me that his was a "Century Special". If it's 122 inches, I guarantee it's a Special. If it's 126, it's a Century.

The extra wheelbase length is entirely in front of the firewall to accommodate the longer engine. The Century and Special bodies are otherwise identical. On the '41s at least, they're completely interchangeable. In fact, the doors on my Century have two sets of mounting holes for the slightly different angles of the stainless side trim due to the different lengths of the hoods.

I don't know if both the slant back and humpback sedan bodies were offered on the Century chassis, though.

Hope this helps.
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#541426 - 10/01/08 09:15 AM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: Mark Shaw]
Grandpa Offline
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Registered: 07/10/07
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Scott,

The 1937 Buick slantback body (called Streamline by Buick) has the same overall length as the humpback (aka trunkback) body. This can be confirmed with a close examination of the side views of the two body types.

All of the Centurys have the same wheelbase as the Roadmaster, since both use the long 320 cubic inch engine.

Grandpa


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#541780 - 10/02/08 06:20 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: Grandpa]
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Dear Grandpa:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you've gotten it wrong on the 1937 wheelbases. 122" is a Special and 126" is a Century and you are correct that all the difference is in front of the firewall to accomodate the biger 320 engine.
However, the wheelbase of a Roadmaster is 131" to support the smaller version of the big body. The Limited wheelbase is 138" and all the difference is right at the back of the rear doors. They are the same all the way from the front bumper to the back of the rear doors. The metal thickness in the frame also increases with length or if the car is a convertible.
Regards, Dave Corbin

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#542923 - 10/07/08 08:17 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: DaveCorbin]
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Hope some one can help me on this question on a slantback.. I have a 1938 Special Slantback.. What wheel base is it? How many made? I have heard many times over its very rare. JWILSO@HOTMAIL.COM it you want to email me... Thanks John

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#542944 - 10/07/08 10:23 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: OLBUICKS]
Grandpa Offline
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John,
The image below is a 1938 Buick Special Model 47 Streamline Sport Sedan like your car.
Grandpa


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#542949 - 10/07/08 10:40 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: Grandpa]
Grandpa Offline
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John,
Buick also offered the Streamline Sport Sedan body in a two-door model. This model is the Special Model 44. In my prior post, I assumed that you have the four door version. What model do you have?
Grandpa


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#542996 - 10/08/08 08:03 AM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: Grandpa]
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Gramps... Thanks for the reply. Mine is a 4 door. It also has daul side mounts and that make me wonder if it has a longer wheel base.. I was wondering if you might know how many of this type was made.. I live in WV and was at a 3 day Doo Wop car show in Charleston, and several people told me that very few of these cars was made... I've had the car several years and have heard this alot... Thanks for any info...

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#542997 - 10/08/08 08:21 AM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: OLBUICKS]
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As per "The Standard Catalog of Buick", 11265 model 47's were produced.


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#543010 - 10/08/08 09:17 AM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: OLBUICKS]
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Originally Posted By: OLBUICKS
It also has daul side mounts and that make me wonder if it has a longer wheel base..


The side-mount spares don't affect the wheelbase at all. Same fender...just has a huge HOLE cut out of it! laugh
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#543019 - 10/08/08 10:43 AM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: ZondaC12]
Matt Harwood Offline
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Yep, sidemounts or no, 4 doors or 2 doors, trunk or slantback, a Special has a 122-inch wheelbase.
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#543031 - 10/08/08 11:56 AM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: Matt Harwood]
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John,
Here is a bit of additional information for you: When a Buick of your vintage had sidemounts installed at the factory, the body data plate was hand stamped with the number "6". The number six indicates that the car has a total of six wheels (the car is provided with two spare wheels). See the attached image of a 1937 Buick body data plate which is stamped with the number six.
Grandpa


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#543072 - 10/08/08 05:43 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: Grandpa]
OLBUICKS Offline
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Registered: 10/07/08
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Thanks for the info... the Buick I have does have a 6 stamped on the plate.....John

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#543105 - 10/08/08 08:43 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: OLBUICKS]
Grandpa Offline
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John,
FYI - The 2008 BCA Membership Roster has a total of seven 1938 Buick Model 47 Streamline Sport Sedans shown. The seven cars are located in the following five states: AL, CA, IL(2), NV, and VA(2). The two cars in VA are in Alexandria and Manassas.
Grandpa

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#543211 - 10/09/08 12:47 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: Grandpa]
OLBUICKS Offline
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Goood information to know... Gramps.. does any one know how many 2 door and 4 door Streamlines were built? Also are you calling the 2 door a 44 and 4 door 47s? Also I joined the BCA last week so you can add WV to that list... Thanks John

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#544103 - 10/13/08 05:34 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: OLBUICKS]
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Another question on the streamline sport productions... Does any one konw how many 2 door and how many 4 doors of this series was made? thanks John

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#544147 - 10/13/08 08:30 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: OLBUICKS]
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Hi John,

Streamline Special Sport Sedan (closed body) production -
1937 Model 44: 9,330
1937 Model 44X: 12
1937 Model 47: 22,312
1937 Model 47X: 205

1938 Model 44: 5,943
1938 Model 44X: 8
1938 Model 47: 11,265
1938 Model 47X: 76

X = Export
Grandpa

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#546530 - 10/21/08 10:09 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: Grandpa]
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Welcome to the forum John AND welcome to the BCA. Glad you joined us.
From one of the Illinois '38 Model 47 owners Grandpa listed earlier. wink
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#547119 - 10/23/08 06:40 PM Re: 1937 Century -- Slantback versus Humpback Sedans [Re: Teamsterdug]
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Thank you... Glad to be here...

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