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#534874 - 09/01/08 11:59 PM
1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
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The St. Louis Car Museum always has amazing pictures of its cars, making this ebay listing of a '36 phaeton worth a visit.
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#534962 - 09/02/08 12:51 PM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
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A lovely car and some very excellent photographs. A few inaccuracies under the hood.
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#534990 - 09/02/08 02:57 PM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
[Re: 1935Packard]
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Well, OK, more than a few. On such an otherwise lovely car, I suppose any at all would be too many. On quick qlance I noted the cylinder head and water jacket distribution plate should be painted (green) as should the carburetor (black), the valve rocker shaft housings shouldn't be painted but natural aluminum. The plated engine trim should be nickel-plate, not chrome. Looks like the oil filler and road draft tubes are plated and should be painted black, etc. Still, it would be welcome in my garage.
Edited by Owen_Dyneto (09/02/08 03:48 PM)
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#534994 - 09/02/08 03:13 PM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
[Re: Owen_Dyneto]
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I noted the cylinder head should be painted (green) Wasn't there an optional aluminum alloy cyl-head, that was Not painted, in '36 ?? I remember something about that but can't remember what years it was available? (It appears that is what is on that engine.)
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#534998 - 09/02/08 03:29 PM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
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The 120s offered an HC aluminum head but I don't believe the Eight and Super Eight did. Could be wrong but I've never seen one or heard of one, nor is one mentioned in the parts book (none stating it's aluminum, that is).
Edited by Owen_Dyneto (09/02/08 03:49 PM)
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#535075 - 09/02/08 08:11 PM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
[Re: Owen_Dyneto]
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Well, OK, more than a few. On such an otherwise lovely car, I suppose any at all would be too many. On quick qlance I noted the cylinder head and water jacket distribution plate should be painted (green) as should the carburetor (black), the valve rocker shaft housings shouldn't be painted but natural aluminum. The plated engine trim should be nickel-plate, not chrome. Looks like the oil filler and road draft tubes are plated and should be painted black, etc. Still, it would be welcome in my garage. Look's like the restorer wanted more bling  Also the starter end cap should be painted green along with the water jacket bolts I believe. Also the fuel pump should be gloss black. I question how can a car with an engine compartment so off from stock, still receive Senior status for both AACA and CCCA. Is it notthat many points for having an engine restored incorrectly? However most of this stuff can easily be done over correctly.
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#535165 - 09/03/08 04:00 AM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
[Re: Owen_Dyneto]
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Registered: 07/31/07
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G'day all, My 35 Super 1205 has an alloy head and as the vehicle has 25,000 miles original, I doubt that it has been changed. I know that the head was removed and unleaded valve seats installed by the previous owner. Perhaps he changed the head but where he would get an alloy one from, I don't know. Best Regards Peter Toet
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#535197 - 09/03/08 09:29 AM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
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Thanks for the confirmation of an apparent OEM alloy head on a 385 engine; it's a dull day that you don't learn something new. If it has a casting or part # and casting date on it, I'd appreciate knowing that so I can make a notation in my parts book.
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#535576 - 09/04/08 04:36 PM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
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It does not have lights mounted on front fenders either, but it looks like a Super-8.
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#535588 - 09/04/08 04:59 PM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
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Upgraded (or downgraded) bumpers and fender lights were optional. Why this guy decided to chrome his fender lights is beyond me, but it goes with all the other bling he did to the engine compartment.
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#535593 - 09/04/08 05:17 PM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
[Re: West Peterson]
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looks like some wants it with all the incorrect bling with a bid of $225K (though still below reserve)which I think is high for a 36 convertible especially in the light that this fairly correct 32 Super 8 coupe roadster only made it to $190K.
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#535608 - 09/04/08 06:58 PM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
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Re. the factory photograph of the 1936 Phaeton (above) -
The back side of the factory photgraph is marked: "Packard Super Eight, Fourteenth Series, Model 1404, 8 Cylinder, 150 Horsepower, 139 Inch Wheelbase, 5-Person Phaeton (body type #951)."
Grandpa
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#535631 - 09/04/08 08:55 PM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
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looks like someone wants it with a bid of $225K (though still below reserve)which I think is high for a 36 convertible It's probably the seller that placed the bid,  trying to get it to that Outragious reserve.  They been watchin' Barrett-Jackson Too much. 
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#536050 - 09/07/08 06:09 AM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
[Re: Owen_Dyneto]
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G'day Owen Dyneto, I had another look and I believe that my alloy head may be a "special" as I discovered a set of head casting moulds amongst the spare parts which I got with the vehicle. WOW, it is really amazing and dare I use a Seventies term- Funky stuff. Best Regards _Peter Toet Thanks for the confirmation of an apparent OEM alloy head on a 385 engine; it's a dull day that you don't learn something new. If it has a casting or part # and casting date on it, I'd appreciate knowing that so I can make a notation in my parts book.
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#536082 - 09/07/08 11:19 AM
Re: 1936 Super 8 Phaeton on Ebay
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I discovered a set of head casting moulds Wow is right, Now you can go into the Head making business! 
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