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#532797 - 08/22/08 12:37 PM
1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
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Hi. I have a 1916 Dodge Brothers roadster with a clear title. It is a 98 percent rust free body and chassis/w rear end only. In other words you get the body shell with trunk and doors/hood/radiator/radiator shell/frame/springs/frontand rear axle dash with gauges/headlights/running boards. No fenders,and only the windshield posts. I was told there are only 3 to 5 of these 1916 roadsters left on this earth. How many are actually in existance? There are people out there commonly paying between $2000.00 and $4000.00 out there for Ford model T and A bodies in this condition. Am i out of line to charge in this range for what i have, considering it's rarity? I'm going to try to sell it to a restorer before it goes on Ebay to be possibly rodded. Your help would be appreciated.
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#532870 - 08/22/08 08:03 PM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: brian j]
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Brian,
Email me photos of this car. I may be interested in it, as I already have a 1916 Dodge Brother 4dr Touring car. Call or email me at 217-740-6151 or collectorcarsandparts@yahoo.com
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#533187 - 08/24/08 11:24 PM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: larry]
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Brian as a member of the Dodge Brothers club I would be interested in restoring the roadster. There were 8 1916 roadsters listed in the 2003 edition of the DBC . It would be a shame to let someone rod it!!! . I have just completed a 16 touring car. Front fenders are very tough to come by and they are not being reproduced unlike the model A's and T's for which everything can be bought off the shelf!. My 16 took 4 years and I am ready to take on another project.I paid in your range for a complete car including wheels and fenders and did a frame off .Do I understand that there is NO engine in this car??? I look foward to hearing from you . bob my email is bob487thbg@aol.com or send me a PM
Edited by bobs1916 (08/24/08 11:25 PM)
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#533217 - 08/25/08 07:44 AM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: bobs1916]
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Registered: 06/14/08
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I have perfect reproduction fiberglass front and rear fenders for 1923 Dodges. Are the fronts the same for the pre-1923? I spent countless hours producing the moulds. Its a pity I am in Australia.
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#533665 - 08/26/08 11:47 PM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: John McEwan]
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John fenders are different on the 16 thanks bob
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#534389 - 08/30/08 11:14 AM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: bobs1916]
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Hi. Brian here. To everyone who has expressed interest and provided info on my DB roadster, thanks much! I will post pics very soon. I have done more research and have set my price at $3000.00 firm. Given the rarity,and other considerations if it doesn't command that i will keep it untill it does. Pics will be posted soon! Regards.
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#538234 - 09/17/08 10:30 AM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: brian j]
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#538478 - 09/18/08 09:36 AM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: brian j]
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Brian, you have got to be kidding! Don't you understand that the car would only be worth about $15,000 when fully restored? Why would somebody pay you $3,000 for this pile of rust, and then have to pay somebody else at least $25,000 to restore the pile, only to have a car that is worth $15,000?
If you want to charge prices like that, you need to switch to a different make of car. Us Dodge Brothers are not used to paying such prices. And if you want that kind of money for it, the car should be in better condition to begin with.
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#538553 - 09/18/08 04:31 PM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: imouttahere]
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I'm not taking sides here, but I think it worth the $$. The closest DB club roster I have here lists 5 '16 roadsters, that's not many. Wish I needed another project. DBers are always complaining about hotrodders buying early cars that should be restored. Trust me, a hotrodder would pay more for less car then this one. Someone should save it!!
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#538579 - 09/18/08 07:21 PM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: nearchoclatetown]
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Brian where is this car ??? bob
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#538661 - 09/19/08 09:03 AM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: bobs1916]
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I'm not trying to start an argument, but let's face it: largely due to auction sites like eBay, lots of people seem to feel that their piece of junk is a "classic" and worth oodles of money. I just felt that somebody should point out the idiocy involved.
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#538681 - 09/19/08 10:53 AM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: imouttahere]
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The buyer's willingness to pay determines the price, I have sold several bodies and parts only to find the guy I sold to put it on ebay and doubled his money. I sold a solid complete 25 DB coupe body to a fellow, who wanted to restore his grandpa's coupe, this body showed up on ebay several weeks later having a 6" chop with extra parts to build a hotrod. I just looked at a 1926 DB 4 door sedan this weekend, a rusted hulk. It was advertized for $1800.00, The owner said he just sold a 24 DB that wasn't as good for $2800.00 to a hotrodder. He was very firm on his price and said it would sell. At these prices the roadster price doesn't seem out of reason, then again, when will you see a 16 roadster body again.
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#538687 - 09/19/08 11:19 AM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: Jim Anselmo]
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Loc: Madras Oregon
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I have seen prices go up considerably in the last 5 years. My buddy paid $5000 for a 28 Victory 6, not running, in fair condition. He got it running but engine was tired. Had to go through brakes, engine, top, needs paint, etc. I sold a 25 4dr that ran but needed everything redone for $4500 a year or two ago. Sold a 24 roadster, running and driving but needing everthing to be "nice" for $5500 about the same time. I have a 1919 DB roadster, nearly complete, engine turns freely, needing total restoration for $2600. Does $3000 seem a bit high? Yeah but if it is truly a 16 they are pretty rare. It is not a ridiculus price to start at in my opinion, certainly not to give the fellow a hard time about. If the price is too high, it won't sell. If it's not, it will. It's all for fun anyway, right?
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#538817 - 09/19/08 11:37 PM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: bobs1916]
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Hi. Brian here. Now that the pot is stirred up i will give my 50 cents worth. The car is in NE Minnesota, Bob. As to the other commentaries good bad or otherwise....... everyone has a point. Here's where i'm coming from. Over the years i've had a few old cars, some were great deals dollar wise,some i had to pay through the nose to get something i decided i wanted bad enough. A couple of years ago i had a Ford model a coupe body, that was rusted around the bottom and had a "flagpole mount" (pipe) welded to the A post. It was dented here and there. It had a few extra parts with it. It was just stored away in my pole building as a "someday" project. A guy came one day to have a look at an unrelated part, and spotted the coupe. He asked if i would sell the extra trunk lid. I let him make an offer/he gave me $300.00 for it. He came back a year later with an interested friend who offered me $2800.00 for the car. It didn't take me much time to decide. Now i have more space in my building. His friend was very happy as he commented that a reproduction steel model a coupe body is $12,000.00 or more depending who you buy it from. He could build what he wanted on a budget. He was happy/i'm happy. Would "I" have paid that much? Not on a bet! But i would be willing to pay "obscene" money for my "dream car". As to the fellah who "drove his car off the trailer". Good for you! Heckuva deal! When's the last time any of you out there spotted another one for that price? If you were to sell it today, what would you take for it? As for the insults i'm taking,and the insinuation that my car is "junk", and not worth near what i ask. The car only has 1 small rusted area on the cowl,the rest is rock solid. I have the original serial plate mounted to the wood, it matches the frame number,the title is clear, it IS a 1916,and there are by the info i've been given, as few as 8 of them that exist in the world. There are Ford model A, and T bodies out there in similar condition (and they were produced in the millions) and they average between $2000.00 to $4000.00, depending on various selling factors. Not just EBAY, but car corrals,swap meets,craigs list,and local papers. And by rodders and restorers alike. Although rodders tend to spend more on these cars, their cars tend to resale higher also. Thanks much to those of you who came to my defense. The reason i offered it first on this forum was to give an opportunity to "restorers" to get first crack at it. It has been pointed out to me this may be the wrong forum to offer it in. To those of you who say it's WAY WAY TOO HIGH,i'm sure another one will come along soon, maybe for a hunnerd bucks. Like the 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner i bought in 1979 for a hunnerd fifty (missing trans)(found a four speed on the floor for fifty) I wonder how cheap i can get another one nowadays??????? NUFF SAID!
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#538924 - 09/20/08 07:00 PM
Re: 1916 Dodge Brothers Roadster price question $$??
[Re: brian j]
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Registered: 07/30/04
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Brian Bit too fasr off for me I am in CT and shipping would make it out of the question. Good luck with the sale. I wish it was in this area. For my 2 cents worth. To all the folks who have made their opinions public on this car the next part is for you. Sure I too would like to pick that roadster up for say 500 bucks but those days are gone. Plus where are you going to find another one that will let you, the restorer, spend the next few years involved in a project that will give you countless hours of pleasure...and some grief no doubt too. But when you are finished WOW!! Of course if you need to farm the work out and pay someone else 25G then you should definitely buy a finished car and keep your hands clean. SOMEBODY PLEASE SAVE THAT CAR FROM THE RODDERS!!!
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