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#523563 - 07/14/08 07:56 PM
1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Edited by Smartin (07/14/08 08:56 PM)
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#523569 - 07/14/08 08:24 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Adam, congratulations on this find!
This model is most certainly one of the great 1950's era "dream machines", and I'm thrilled that you picked this one up.
I look forward to your updates during the months and years ahead, as you enjoy this spectacular Buick!
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#523575 - 07/14/08 08:37 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
[Re: Smartin]
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Adam, I'll be interested to learn whether this car retains its original Flight Pitch transmission or has been converted to the regular Dynaflow.
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#523581 - 07/14/08 08:49 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Very interesting, Adam. Trexler's trunk lid looks almost like it was an extended Roadmaster or Super trunklid. I wonder if the date of manufacture or the assembly plant dictated the difference. It would be interesting to contact other owners of the 4-door Rivieras to see what you can learn.
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#523582 - 07/14/08 08:55 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Adam, Matt Menges in Wichita ("Electra" on the buick-59 forum) has both 2-door and 4-door '58 Limiteds. I'm sure that he would be happy to check his cars when he returns from Flint.
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#523604 - 07/14/08 10:18 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
[Re: Smartin]
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Wow! Looks like you'll be scratching spare money off your dream list too. Don't get me wrong, that car looks like it would be awesome refinished. And we've seen the quality of your work and know you can do it. But it does look like an intensive project. Good luck. Looking forward to seeing the pics as you go along.
By the way, I noticed it was your birthday recently ( courtesy of the v8 board) and would like to say Happy B day! This is a fine present you bought yourself...
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#523609 - 07/14/08 10:31 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Congratulations Adam. That looks like a very solid car, not to mention the fact of what it is model-wise.
I'm looking forward to reading about your adventures with the car.
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#523613 - 07/14/08 10:36 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
[Re: JohnD1956]
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I understood the money issue when I was told about this car. I had actually seen this particular car 2 years ago when I was looking at another one in the same building. My friend Hank Deglman was with me when I saw it, and we checked it out for a few minutes. He told me, "You're not ready for a 58, yet." He then proceeded to tell me how much his chrome and stainless bill was for his 58 Roadmaster convertible. Well, I don't plan on handing over the entire pile of chrome to the shop at once, so I won't be sweating that all at one time. I need a project like this. I need a challenge! This fits the bill nicely 
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#523645 - 07/15/08 06:48 AM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
[Re: Smartin]
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Wagons Ho, full speed ahead.
Congratulations.
Stevo
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#523821 - 07/15/08 09:41 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
[Re: Smartin]
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Adam Nice find! Now here's a question: I was looking through Kris Trexler's site, and noticed the underside of the trunk lids are different: Possibly if the 58's are like 55's the trunk of a 2dr is longer than a 4dr. Willie
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#523928 - 07/16/08 09:29 AM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
[Re: Smartin]
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Adam, you may already know this, but if not, when you look under the car at the transmission pan, if it is a perfect square, that is the Flite-Pitch. If the trans was changed in the past, sometimes they also changed the gear indicator on the dash to the Dynaflow indicator, but I've seen several where they left the Flite-Pitch indicator in and just had to use memory as to where the gears were.
Flite-Pitches can be a pain, but when they work, they are great. If the LTD still has it, and it needs work, there are a couple people I know that specialize in rebuilding them, so there'll be no need to go the Dynaflow route.
Sweet machine, Adam!
Matt
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#524194 - 07/17/08 09:48 AM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Adam, You already have an excellent restored driver in your formal coupe, so taking on a long term project such as this is not so disheartening. You can always hop in the Centurion and take a break from the Limited.
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#524890 - 07/20/08 10:28 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
[Re: Smartin]
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#524897 - 07/20/08 11:07 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
[Re: Smartin]
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Adam,
All the best of luck in your current endeavor. Keep the progress photos coming.
Stevo
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#525145 - 07/21/08 09:37 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Right on...again, congrats and good luck.
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#525170 - 07/21/08 10:37 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Wow from the pictures she don't look half bad!!!! I'd sure as hell cruise around town in that with a huge smile on my face as it sits!
Love the picture of it next to the centurion. Wow what a boat. I'm sorry I just love the BIG ass-end and the chrome and stainless everywhere. Gaudy? Perrrrrrhaps. Still looks good? I think so.
Let us know how the A/C is when you get it working. Anyone chime in on how good '50s era A/C was? The closest example I know of first hand is circa 1970s.....a '71 Lincoln Mark III 2dr at a cruise last summer the owner was letting me check out and sit in and move the steering wheel with my LITTLE finger. The A/C in that car was dreadfully freezing LOL.
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#525453 - 07/23/08 01:11 AM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Adam, glad to see the under the trunk shot. You're right, that looks a lot like the color on Hank's car. Hope you're enjoying her...
Kevin
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#525660 - 07/23/08 09:15 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Adam, I am beginnig to believe that size does matter to you.  Congratulations and I look forward to following the restoration of it as I always have the detailing of your previouos cars. Factory air, man that is gonna be nice. She's gonna be beautiful!!! 
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#526346 - 07/26/08 05:33 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
[Re: Smartin]
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Edited by Smartin (07/26/08 05:38 PM)
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#526348 - 07/26/08 05:38 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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#526580 - 07/26/08 09:09 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Hey Adam, Is that a heater running across the floor under the front seats?
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#526600 - 07/26/08 11:18 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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That would be the under seat heater tube and coils
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#526703 - 07/27/08 01:25 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Nice. My family used to own a 55 with the under seat heater, and my 56 does not have an under seat heater. I just assumed 55 was the last year for those.
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#526805 - 07/27/08 10:38 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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This car does look like it will take quite a bit of work to cut then fabricate and install new patch panels. Wish we could be there to help you.
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#532669 - 08/21/08 09:28 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Not much to report.. This is the pile of dirt and crapola that came out of the inside of the door. I have half of the dash apart, but it looks like I'll be waiting until I can pull the steering column to remove the rest of the pieces. Every door panel looks as bad as this one. Ugh. 
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#532775 - 08/22/08 09:41 AM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Adam, if you need any parts, like rust free doors and good interior pieces, let me know. I just sold my 4 door Limited parts car and he is for sure parting it out.
Keep us updated!
Matt
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#533234 - 08/25/08 10:01 AM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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#538057 - 09/16/08 12:44 PM
Re: 1958 Limited Four Door Riviera
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Looking at all that rust makes me wanna dig into my 42 sedan, I cant wait but need to get back on my Maxwell this winter or I may never do it---LOVE BUICKS TOO MUCH NOW ! Good luck.
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