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#519201 - 06/25/08 01:03 AM
'50 Buick 56R
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I'm new to the Buick forum. I just bought a 1 owner 1950 56R out of a garage. Hasn't been taged since 1977. It has every piece of paper work since new ie.owners manuel, Hydramatic pamplets, the little cards that hangs off of the cig. lighter,a thank you note from Buick Motor Division in Flint 2,Michigan post marked Jan. 27, 10am,1951 with a 3 cent stamp, sales tax receipt, sales invoice that lists options w/ total purchase price ($2400.00). Too many others to describe. I'll post pics as soon as I figure out how. I can't wait to here it run.
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#519818 - 06/27/08 09:28 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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We can't wait for you to run it either. Hope you're close to posting pictures.
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John C. De Fiore BCA # 3757 56 Super 56R Purchased 1974 69 GS 400 Convertible Added in 2003 69 Electra Limited 2 dr.( well, no longer limited although still unique) Purchased in 1995 or thereabouts 78 Estate Wagon added 10-2008 95 Riviera Supercharged (sold) 2006 06 Lacrosse CXL "I wonder if I can get the Feds to bail out my old cars?" Member of the UPSTATE NY CHAPTER check it out at http://unybca.skyphix.com/
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#519851 - 06/28/08 12:52 AM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: JohnD1956]
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Loc: little rock, AR
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Its 11:30pm in Little Rock and just bolted on the rebuilt carb. I'm going to hook up aux. gas tank in the morning. I've got my fingers crossed.
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#519991 - 06/28/08 09:29 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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Got it running today but it has no oil at the rocker arm assy. Its running good oil pressure at the guage. 95K miles on the motor. What kind of problems will I have at this mileage. Chiltons refers to the oiling tubes. Any suggetions?
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#520002 - 06/28/08 10:34 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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Only using visual information from a 38, I believe the oil escapes the rocker arm via one or two small holes in the rocker shaft, just above the keepers on the valve springs. If you really have no oil at the valves then I'd pull the rocker arm and take it apart to try to clean it all internally. If you hae no oil at the rocker arm itself then that's a different story and I don't know what to suggest.
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John C. De Fiore BCA # 3757 56 Super 56R Purchased 1974 69 GS 400 Convertible Added in 2003 69 Electra Limited 2 dr.( well, no longer limited although still unique) Purchased in 1995 or thereabouts 78 Estate Wagon added 10-2008 95 Riviera Supercharged (sold) 2006 06 Lacrosse CXL "I wonder if I can get the Feds to bail out my old cars?" Member of the UPSTATE NY CHAPTER check it out at http://unybca.skyphix.com/
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#520577 - 07/01/08 01:43 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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Dear Oldwood: The way the whole thing works is that each rocker arm has a feed hole under it in the long rocker arm shaft. This hole feeds the rocker arm. The rocker arm shaft is fed thru the clearance in the front rocker arm stand, so line up of the shaft in both front to back direction and rotational direction is critical. There is a hole in the cylinder head that feeds the bottom of the front rocker arm stand. In the side of the cylinder head near the front is a small oil line opening that either feeds from the filter (if the car has one) or via a small tube from side of the block. It's easy to check and clean, but be very careful to get everything back together the right way. Regards, Dave Corbin
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#520663 - 07/01/08 10:04 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: DaveCorbin]
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Pulled out lifters,cleaned and reprimed.Partially disassembled rocker assy(4-5hrs) 58 yrs of sludge but cleaned and ready. Took oil canister apart and couldn't believe the sludge. Scooped it out with a spoon. Scared to run it so I pulled down the oil pan. Again I pulled out the EXTRA LARGE spoon to clean out the pan. I droped the oil pump(I forgot to set it up on # 1 TDC)so I'll have to pull out my chilton's on how to reinstall to get timing right. Didn't want to look at rod and mains bearings but was surprised at how good they looked for 96K miles. Pondering replacing or not.Almost forgot to mention the rusted holes in the oil pan eaten from the inside out.I'm also worring @ the tranny. I need the softer and easier way to show pics since I'm computor challenged. Dorsey Williamson '47&'48 olds woody and '50 buick 56R
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#520759 - 07/02/08 10:16 AM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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Dear Dorsey: Be sure you install a new oil filter. NAPA still has the right ones, but if my memory's correct, NAPA will list that filter as being for an old John Deere tractor. DO NOT USE MODERN DETERGENT OIL THE FIRST TIME !!! All of the stuff you loosened up will get in the filter quickly, so you might want to replace it in a couple of hundred miles. Regards, Dave Corbin
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#520760 - 07/02/08 10:21 AM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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Dear Dorsey: If you post the frame and engine numbers and the paint and trim code numbers from the body plate, I can tell you what the car looked like originally, where and a close when it was built. Regards, Dave Corbin
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#520959 - 07/02/08 11:35 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: DaveCorbin]
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Loc: little rock, AR
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Dave,thanks for your help. Here is the tag info: 1950 mod 56R;style no. 50-4537;body no. BK 1129;trim no. 50;paint no.18. It has been painted once the same color. Update on progress: cleaned all rod bearings and three mains. All looked good.Found another oil pan and waiting on gasket set and gas tank. Starting on brakes while I'm waiting on parts. Still cant figure out how to load pics. Have a friend coming by who is more savvy on loading pics. Do you think the tranny is going to work?????? All this work on the mtr I sure hope it does. Does any one need any extra grease for their hair,it's FREE. HA HA
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#521432 - 07/05/08 08:16 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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Dear Dorsey: Trim code 50 is for "grey herringbone pattern cloth". Paint code 18 is for "Calvin gray". Optional wheel color is "Dante Red", standard wheel color is Calvin gray. Wheel stripe is "French white". BK is a body code for Kansas City body plant. I have Duco and Dulux numbers if you need them. I hope this helps. Regards, Dave Corbin
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#521928 - 07/07/08 11:32 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: DaveCorbin]
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Dave, Is calvin gray a light green. The spare tire and wheel are original w/the light green color w/ three french white stripes. Very cool looking. The wheels on the car were repainted when the car was. They matched the paint as the door jambs are original. I'm waiting on fr. wheel cyls., fuel pump, new gas tank (250.00) vs old tank being coated(150.00),oil pan,gst set. And who knows what else. I want to post pics but its to much for me to handle. Had a parts man tell me about and old buick and I looked at it today. A clean bodied '54 century 4door thats been sitting under a shed. I should here a price this week. But do I want a 4 door? Clean body but 4 doors just dont bring the money vs 2 doors. Are these cars worth buying vs the work involved to get them running and stopping? I'm still saving for Hershey. Dorsey
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#522543 - 07/10/08 12:18 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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#522811 - 07/11/08 01:56 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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Wow! What a great looking car! Can't say I've ever seen one that color. But I bet it's stunning when cleaned and polished. Good luck with it.
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#524699 - 07/19/08 10:47 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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Madien voyage completed since being stored since 1977. I was worried @ the tranny but it pulled. Just drove it to the gas station as customers walked around it asking,"What is it" Didn't want to push my luck yet. I have a lot of fine tuning to do before I really get to enjoy it. A lot of work accomplished but more to go. Dorsey
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#525644 - 07/23/08 07:51 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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I am thinking more and more about a early 50's Buick. Here's a few shots of one for sale in the car coral area in flint.
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John C. De Fiore BCA # 3757 56 Super 56R Purchased 1974 69 GS 400 Convertible Added in 2003 69 Electra Limited 2 dr.( well, no longer limited although still unique) Purchased in 1995 or thereabouts 78 Estate Wagon added 10-2008 95 Riviera Supercharged (sold) 2006 06 Lacrosse CXL "I wonder if I can get the Feds to bail out my old cars?" Member of the UPSTATE NY CHAPTER check it out at http://unybca.skyphix.com/
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#525648 - 07/23/08 08:14 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: JohnD1956]
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John,
You should have laid claim to that Super. I really like those 2 door hardtops. I missed seeing that one. The pictures look great, I think you should chase it down.
stevo
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1983 Riviera Convertible: 1946 Super 4 Door Sedan
ROA: BCA: Niagara Frontier Chapter BCA, Upstate NY Chapter BCA, Buicktown Chapter BCA, BDE BCA, PWD BCA, AACA: Lake Erie Region AACA
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#525677 - 07/23/08 10:18 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: serb]
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You're right. I do like the Supers the best. I'll take care of that as soon as I hit 6 of six numbers in tonights Lottery.
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John C. De Fiore BCA # 3757 56 Super 56R Purchased 1974 69 GS 400 Convertible Added in 2003 69 Electra Limited 2 dr.( well, no longer limited although still unique) Purchased in 1995 or thereabouts 78 Estate Wagon added 10-2008 95 Riviera Supercharged (sold) 2006 06 Lacrosse CXL "I wonder if I can get the Feds to bail out my old cars?" Member of the UPSTATE NY CHAPTER check it out at http://unybca.skyphix.com/
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#525689 - 07/23/08 11:02 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: JohnD1956]
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John, Thanks for the latest pics of a clean '50. After having the radiator boiled and all hoses (40+ feet of 5/8 hose) and 2 radiator hoses,belt replaced I have been driving it in 95+ degree heat without any problems. The tranny is even working right ie with just a very minor drip. I hope its not to hard to fix. I'm just glad it runs after sitting since '77. What do you think about a set of skirts and a visor??????? What were they wanting for the '50 you pictured? I'll try and post some new pics since I've cleaned it. Also, There's something about 58 year old grease that is hard to srub off of skin. Thanks, Dorsey
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#525896 - 07/24/08 06:05 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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I don't know what they were asking for the car. I didn't look mostly because that way I was not tempted to buy it.
As for skirts and a visor, my opinion is, if it didn't come with them, then it doesn't need em. Of course I fully respect each individuals taste and preference when it comes to that sort of stuff. I know when I found out my 69 had the wider than stock chrome wheels I was pleased and I kept them on the car. So if these things make your car yours, then I would say just try not to alter the body to install them.
Anxious to see the pics. It looks like the grey car in the pics I posted has the same color green as your car, on the roof.
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John C. De Fiore BCA # 3757 56 Super 56R Purchased 1974 69 GS 400 Convertible Added in 2003 69 Electra Limited 2 dr.( well, no longer limited although still unique) Purchased in 1995 or thereabouts 78 Estate Wagon added 10-2008 95 Riviera Supercharged (sold) 2006 06 Lacrosse CXL "I wonder if I can get the Feds to bail out my old cars?" Member of the UPSTATE NY CHAPTER check it out at http://unybca.skyphix.com/
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#525905 - 07/24/08 06:36 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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Loc: Perth Western Australia
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Dorsey,
Good Choice! The 56R is so beautiful on the road. While my car is two tone, i particularly like these cars in a single colour.
I have attached a link to my web site where you may find useful reference information for your car.
You will see as well that I have copied the original cloth for the seats. I had this made here in Australia and would like to sell the remaining cloth that I have (120 Meters). Email if you would like a sample.
Site has colour charts for you to check your colour combination. Send a message if you would like specific images of the car.
Enjoy Michael M
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Photos and stuff about my 1950 56R......... www.buicknet.com
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#525912 - 07/24/08 07:10 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: oldwood]
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Fabric sample
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Photos and stuff about my 1950 56R......... www.buicknet.com
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#525993 - 07/25/08 12:24 AM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: michaelmis]
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Loc: little rock, AR
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Thanks Michael for the info. I took off the plastic seat covers today and found the build sheet. I didn't realize how primitive these sheets were. It look like a bunch of useless letters and numbers. I also have a lot of the original paper work that came in the glove and knob hangers. My interior has the same cloth that your selling but I'm not there for that expense. Did you put on the fender spears? thx, dorsey
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#526808 - 07/27/08 10:46 PM
Re: '50 Buick 56R
[Re: michaelmis]
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My build sheet was under the rear seat and has factory ink stain that was spilled on it. 1st line-?14., 2nd line ?29.B.R.V.50, 3rd line 4537-18-50 4th line M-H-A-C. The ?marks are where the stain hides some #'s or letters.
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