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#521260 - 07/04/08 06:48 PM
Re: What's With Hydrogen?
[Re: Skyking]
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Today's headlines........."ELECTRIC UTILITY SEEKS 21.7% RATE HIKE" Well we're trying to save gas, now what? This is a plan. They are going to get us one way or the other. I hate to see how many house fires this coming winter......  When the electricity rate caps expire on December 31, 2010 rates in Pennsylvania will be rising also. Some "experts" have said electric rates will increase as much as 50% or more. Lawmakers in Pennsylvania are looking to ease or eliminate the transition. Time will tell how this plays out.
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#521262 - 07/04/08 07:19 PM
Re: What's With Hydrogen?
[Re: Dave@Moon]
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Most people today never heard of the Little Climactic Optimum from 600 AD to 1300 AD or the Little Ice Age that followed, from 1400 AD to 1850 AD.
Today's so called Global Warming is within the normal range of natural climate change and well within it.
Pretty much anybody's who's even informally looked at this stuff knows about the Little Climactic Optimum and the Little Ice Age. They'd also know that your statement here on global warming is totally out of whack with the facts. I have a Master's Degree in the environmental sciences. I'm more than an informally interested person. That may be why people so misinformed upset me so. This "Urban myth" was in the history textbooks I studied at school 40 years ago. I believe it has since been edited out. Guess why. So what's to worry about? Man, have you got some reading to do (even if this was supposed to be an ironic statement)!  I don't mind reading and I would like to know the truth. Are you saying the Norse sagas are bunk, and that they did not settle in Iceland and Greenland, and did not explore Newfoundland? Or that the Little Climactic Optimum and Little Ice Age did not take place? Or that oil consumption has nothing to do with global warming? And that therefore, the end of oil will not reduce global warming? Or do you think peak oil is bogus too? I'm not quite following what you mean.
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#521272 - 07/04/08 08:19 PM
Re: What's With Hydrogen?
[Re: Reatta Man]
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I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last month...  TG
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#521277 - 07/04/08 08:50 PM
Re: What's With Hydrogen?
[Re: Dave@Moon]
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You were talking about all the speculators, 'digging any hole they could' in texas and Alaska in the 1980s!
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#521278 - 07/04/08 08:52 PM
Re: What's With Hydrogen?
[Re: Dave@Moon]
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So, Dave, what is conservation? I could be conserving more than my neighbor, someone could conserve more than me, etc.? So, what is conserving?
Global Cooling= Funky, hip, disco 70's
Global Warming= The Hot modern 00's
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1941 Dodge Buisness Coupe- in the family since 1955
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#521286 - 07/04/08 10:29 PM
Re: What's With Hydrogen?
[Re: 1948Lincoln]
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You were talking about all the speculators, 'digging any hole they could' in texas and Alaska in the 1980s! You must have me confused with someone else. There have been a number of threads where indiscriminate drilling was discussed, but I can't recall any thread where Texas was specificaly mentioned.
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