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#515766 - 06/09/08 02:36 PM Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui
Marius Offline
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Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Austria/Europe
Hi! I'm from Europe and owner of a 84 Riviera Convertible! There is now a problem with the car:
I changed all spark plugs and wires, rotor cap ...
I don't know the firing order and the positions on the cap for the positions of the cylinders.
Can somebody help me?
Please tell me where on the motor is the first cyl. passengers side or drivers side? front side (there where the belts are) or back side (to passenger-room) - even so the exactly positions of the 6 cyl. on the distributor cap!
Thanks Marius!

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#515806 - 06/09/08 04:44 PM Re: Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui [Re: Marius]
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Marius,

Is the service label still on the fan shroud? It should have the firing order, etcl. If not let us know and I'll try and find it in the service manual, scan and email it to you.
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1983 Riviera "Cole"
1984 Riviera T-type "Tina"
1985 Riviera "Gray"
1985 Riviera T-type modified "Blackhawk"

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#515825 - 06/09/08 06:03 PM Re: Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui [Re: sosuzguy]
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Registered: 11/25/02
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Marius,
Cylinder number one is on the driver side front of the engine by the power steering pump. The firing order is 1-6-5-4-3-2, and the wire retainer should be numbered for each spark plug wire. If you replaced the distributor cap, make sure that you swapped the coil ground lead from the old distributor cap into the new cap! Let me know!
Good Luck,
Tim McCluskey


Edited by tim63riv (06/09/08 06:03 PM)
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Maplewood, Minnesota
ROA 9686 BCA 39089
1963 Riviera (Blue)
1963 Riviera (Black)
1985 Riviera T Type (White)

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#515833 - 06/09/08 06:47 PM Re: Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui [Re: tim63riv]
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Registered: 12/07/06
Posts: 672
Loc: NE Kansas
Marius,

I've been trying to contact you about the moldings you wanted. They're off and ready to be shipped.

Please send the funds (US dollars as we discussed) and I'll get them to you. I still have the shipping info from the last time you inquired.

Ed
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1963 Riviera - Black w/ white leather
1964 Riviera mild custom
1985 Riviera - Dark Blue (stealth mode)
Some days you might have to be the statue, but other days you get to be the pigeon.

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#515934 - 06/10/08 07:01 AM Re: Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui [Re: RivNut]
Marius Offline
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That means that de Cylinders on the rivers side are 1 3 5 passengers side 2 4 6 - the distributor cap was replaced and i swapped the coil ground - sure!
I replaced the magnet into the new cap - also this little finger contact, with the spring on the bottom!


about the molding, i will searach for the account informations, call you later! thanks!

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#515935 - 06/10/08 07:05 AM Re: Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui [Re: Marius]
Marius Offline
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Loc: Austria/Europe
one more thing on the distributor cap is a pice of plastic where the numbers are on it but it can be mounted in two ways, i need to know where the positions on the cap are! Thanks very much for your help!

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#515971 - 06/10/08 10:38 AM Re: Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui [Re: Marius]
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Marius,

As soon as I get the car back from the paint shop (Thursday or Friday) everything I have left over will be going to the scrap yard.

Ed
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ROA #279
Heartland Regional Coordinator (Kansas City area)
1963 Riviera - Black w/ white leather
1964 Riviera mild custom
1985 Riviera - Dark Blue (stealth mode)
Some days you might have to be the statue, but other days you get to be the pigeon.

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#516101 - 06/10/08 11:20 PM Re: Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui [Re: RivNut]
tim63riv Online
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Registered: 11/25/02
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Loc: Minnesota
Marius,
Look closely at the spark plug wire retainer and the coil cover, you'll see it only goes on one way. There are two tabs on the coil cover that fit into two notches in the wire retainer to correctly orient the two parts together.
Tim
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Tim McCluskey
Maplewood, Minnesota
ROA 9686 BCA 39089
1963 Riviera (Blue)
1963 Riviera (Black)
1985 Riviera T Type (White)

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#516105 - 06/10/08 11:29 PM Re: Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui [Re: tim63riv]
Marius Offline
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I will try so, hope it works. Are there any options to add photos in these replies? I will make some pics today to show it to you!

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#516226 - 06/11/08 03:46 PM Re: Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui [Re: Marius]
Marius Offline
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Registered: 04/28/08
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is it possible that someone send me a picture of a manual? I don't know where the problem is, the firing order is correct, neu plugs, cabels and so on.... maybe a problem with the caburator?... would be very helpful to give me a few tips

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#516234 - 06/11/08 04:57 PM Re: Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui [Re: Marius]
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Registered: 11/25/02
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Loc: Minnesota
Marius,
Did the car run before you did the work on it? I find that most times if it ran to begin with and now doesn't, the cause is related to the repair. Do you have any spark?
Thanks,
Tim


Edited by tim63riv (06/11/08 04:58 PM)
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Tim McCluskey
Maplewood, Minnesota
ROA 9686 BCA 39089
1963 Riviera (Blue)
1963 Riviera (Black)
1985 Riviera T Type (White)

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#516236 - 06/11/08 05:05 PM Re: Firing order and pits positions on rotor cap 84er V6 252 cui [Re: tim63riv]
Marius Offline
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Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Austria/Europe
yes the car was running before, spark is okay on all plugs

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