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#515127 - 06/06/08 04:52 PM
Stalling Vapor Lock?
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I've had some issues trying to work the bugs out of this car so hopefully someone can help. A while back I had problems with the vacumm tank. We thought it was the carburetor so we put a rebuilt one on and had the same problem with sputtering and stalling. Once a new vacumm tank went on that problem went away. Also had/have problems with my radiator being clogged. After rust from the engine getting into the radiator I had some over heating problems. After many flushes I finally got it to stop over heating in cooler weather. (I am currently having a radiator recored)
So today just for giggles I thought I'd run the car in this 90 degree heat to see if it would over heat. After a couple of minutes with the car just sitting and idling it would stall out.I thought great! I have vacumm canister problems again. I took the canister out and filled the outer tank with fuel and ran the car. Same thing. It would stall. I removed the glaas bowl to see if any setiment was obstructing the passage to the carb. I didn't see any. The one thing I thought was strange was that when I replaced the glass bowl and opened the valve to let the fuel drop down from the canister, it only came down in tiny dribbles. Only when I loosened the glass bowl holder to let air in did it come gushing down like it normally would??? Is this normal?
I drove this car the other day in cooler weather and it ran perfect for hours. The only thing I can think of is vapor lock??? The fuel line from the canister to the carb is about 1 1/4" from the manifold. Too close? Suggestions??
Incidentally, when the car would stall, I would add a little extra fuel to the canister and after a few minutes it would fire right back up and run great for a few more minutes and then stall out again. Am I barking up the right tree or should I consider looking at other things??
Thanks in advance! Dan
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#515182 - 06/06/08 10:29 PM
Re: Stalling Vapor Lock?
[Re: 1929Chrysler]
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Run it again until it stalls. Then take the drain plug out of the carb to see if there is any gas .
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#515378 - 06/07/08 11:13 PM
Re: Stalling Vapor Lock?
[Re: nearchoclatetown]
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Registered: 10/30/03
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Loc: Gettysburg, PA
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Try cliping some wooden close pins on the gas line where you think it might be getting too hot. if it's vapor lock that should fix it.
it's an old wife's tale but it works!
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#515394 - 06/08/08 12:15 AM
Re: Stalling Vapor Lock?
[Re: nearchoclatetown]
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Thanks Big Mark but my fuel lines are all copper so that wouldn't help. Nearchocolatetown.. Can you explain to me what it would tell me if there was fuel in the bowl of the carburetor or not? I have heard of vapor lock occuring within the carburator but I can't imagine that happening here because it is an updraft carb and it it is below the manifold and as we know heat rises. The line from the vacumm canister that supplies the carb is right next to the manifold. That is were I suspect the vapor lock is occuring.
If vapor lock were occuring in that line wouldn't it be disrupting the feed to the carburator and thus there would be a lack of fuel in the bowl? At the same token, if there was an obstruction some where in the line wouldn't there also be a lack of fuel in the bowl?
I'm just trying to undersatnd what it would tell me if there was or wasn't fuel in the carb.
Thank you for the reply Dan
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#515418 - 06/08/08 07:44 AM
Re: Stalling Vapor Lock?
[Re: 1929Chrysler]
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You've ask the same question several places on this forum. We can't see the car and don't know any history of the car so we have to ask questions. If you already know the answer that's good.
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#515444 - 06/08/08 09:24 AM
Re: Stalling Vapor Lock?
[Re: nearchoclatetown]
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Nearchoclatetown.. If you'll notice in my other threads I'm asking for clarification because I DON'T have the answer!It doesn't make sense to me. And some opinions I get from other people in other places on the forum are beneficial because some body very knowlegeable will only read certain posts.
As far as you not being able to see the car and know the history. No kidding?! That's why some body invented the forum!
If you don't know the answer to my question I understand. But don't try to turn this on me as if I'M being out of line here because I am not. I am just trying to learn.
Dan
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#515453 - 06/08/08 10:12 AM
Re: Stalling Vapor Lock?
[Re: 1929Chrysler]
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It seems a few others that responded to your question were headed the same way as my question. Whether there is gas in the bowl after it stalls has a lot to do with what is wrong. You'll figure it out.
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#515739 - 06/09/08 12:27 PM
Re: Stalling Vapor Lock?
[Re: nearchoclatetown]
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Registered: 06/15/07
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Clothes pins will pull heat out of any line.
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#520495 - 07/01/08 08:12 AM
Re: Stalling Vapor Lock?
[Re: JACK M]
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Registered: 11/18/02
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Sounds more like your vacuum tank is not dumping the load of gas once its float triggers it. Check to see if manifold vacuum is reaching the vacuum tank. Then check to see if the gasket between tank and top casting is not blocking the hole for the atmospheric bleed tube (the little bent copper tube coming out of top) There is one "odd" hole in the gasket and it must be aligned with the bleed tube hole. Also make sure you dont have all sorts of loops in the gas line to the carburetor. I have seen some of those loops so severe that they prevent gravity feed down to the carburetor. They also trap gasoline making a perfect place for so called vapor lock.
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#520496 - 07/01/08 08:15 AM
Re: Stalling Vapor Lock?
[Re: JB-ed]
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Registered: 11/18/02
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....clicked "submit" too soon.... in summary you want a nice "downhill" trip for the gasoline from the bottom of the vacuum tank to the carburetor. As direct as possible, with no up hill detours.
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#520649 - 07/01/08 09:19 PM
Re: Stalling Vapor Lock?
[Re: 1929Chrysler]
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Registered: 10/07/07
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Dan- One way to solve it, is an electric fuel pump- I've been thru this many times- I know not original, but neither is the 2008 gas we get. You can hide it under the frame & install a switch behind the dash. Have to watch pressure at the carb, but that can be solved. Yea, the old 30s cloths pin trick, rag of water around the line, thing like they did in the old days- It's up to you- It's just good fun anyway ( keep your cell phone handy !!!) S Jones
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#522952 - 07/11/08 10:59 PM
Re: Stalling Vapor Lock?
[Re: JB-ed]
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Registered: 04/15/05
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Loc: Dallas, Texas area
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Sorry some of the 'posters' appear difficult. Check some other things which can be made more pronounced with higher outside temps: 1. remove # 1 spark plug and look for soot; carbon. Means too rich a carb mix. NAPA and the DB Club vendors sell new plugs. NAPA required a purchase of a box of 12 when I bought because special order. That way you have 6 in block and 6 ready to go. Check the garage section on this site for plug number and torque values. Turn down carb idle as soon as engine runs. Look as tail pipe: is it sooty carbon? Too rich 2. Replace spark plug cables between spark and distributor. Many purists insist on the old time color braided cables with the push in connectors. Skip those and buy the new molded modern cables. Measure them but roughly: 2 @ 15 inches; 2 @ 12 inches and 2 at 9 inches. 3. Consider the after market electronic ignition distributor from Romar or Myers or other reliable DB vendors. You do need a compatible coil. It makes a big improvement. None of these directly address your vapor lock concern but in my experience the above issues can amplify out of tune conditions with hot weather or run temperatures. Paul
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