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#489709 - 02/24/08 05:16 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: alsfarms]
alsfarms Offline
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Registered: 01/30/05
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This is a few quotes from Brian explaining what he did and used.
Hi Alan
ok to put on the web site. I could not work out how to do it. model number is BX UV2 off a Holden somewhere about 1965 so i'm told. has a base hole of 33mm the first one had 37mm. which i found too big. Although the carby fitted the manifold i made a smaller one. I had pushed a long spring into it to create some turbulance to assist vapourizing the fuel, without much success.The second one is shorter as it is narrower diameter tube. A bit of heat on it would make a huge difference. No trouble starting half a crank and shes off. idles about 450 or so. A bit puffy out the back but i am still making ajustments. The fuel pump and filter is under the car, i cut the pipe along the chassis and used rubber hose with joiners. Had to change to neg earth to do this.The carby does have a pump. It needs that sqwirt to rev, This carby also has an ajustable idle mixture screw as well as the ajustable main jet. You maybe able to find a ford carby to do the same. Will keep you informed of my progress. See attached pics of carby. The carby is a stromberg down draught off an old aussie Holden of about 2.6ltrs, I saw one fitted at a swap meet and spoke to the owner. I changed the main jet to an ajustable, and made the manifold from a piece of bent 11/2inch exhaust pipe made some ends and welded them on, works good. have since made smaller one.
have a look and i can give more info if needed.

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#489743 - 02/24/08 07:24 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: alsfarms]
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Alsfarm, that looks pretty racey. IS it my eyesight or is the carb leaning a little to the right?
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#489759 - 02/24/08 08:09 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: nearchoclatetown]
alsfarms Offline
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Not sure if it is straight or not, could just be the angle of Brian's camera. He suggests that he has a second version for the intake in the works. Maybe he will drop us an update.

Alan

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#489786 - 02/24/08 09:53 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: alsfarms]
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Sorry. Thats the new smaller manifold, i had to finish it and quickly bolt it on to take the pics. It is all square now. Also painted it same as motor. looks like a bought one now. Have not tried it yet, maybe on the week end.
Brian

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#489845 - 02/25/08 06:14 AM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: brian1925tourer]
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With a modern carb and the adjustable jet it should be a good setup. Let us know, please.
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#490890 - 02/28/08 07:20 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: wenthur]
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here is an old photo from some obscure publication of a morton brett equipped Dodge engine. I have the engine but it is taken apart.


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#490964 - 02/29/08 01:05 AM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: nearchoclatetown]
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This is G. Rowland in his #9 Dodge Special, it was at Langhorne, Pa. on opening day for the Inaugural Race on May 31, 1926


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#491516 - 03/02/08 03:46 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: 1937hd45]
alsfarms Offline
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Brian sent me a couple of digital images of his installation of after market tube type shocks installed on his car. Here they are.


I bet they help reduce the jolts during a Sunday afternoon drive!
Alan

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#492361 - 03/05/08 10:32 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: 1937hd45]
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Registered: 07/26/07
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Allan
I had a friend that had a ROOF head on his 1921 Dodge Roadster. The engine was fresh and all broke in and ready for the road. 30 days later he was going up a long climb and desided to pass his friend 1930 Packard. Well just after passing the Packard the crank blew out the bottom of his new engine.
Yes It will vastly increase the power and rip your engine block and crank appart.
You are farther ahead to stick with the Richardo head. That is what my friend did and after loosing his engine.
found a Richardo and built a new engine and left the rest on the shelf.
If you have a extra Richardo I'm interested. Maybe I can duplicate it.
Well enough of my dreaming.
Cheers

Reuel

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#509163 - 05/12/08 03:40 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: mrgearhead1]
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I have been running a Plymouth PB powered roadster at Bonneville and El Mirage. lately I have been looking at a '26 Dodge Bros engine that was given to me. The drip oiling to the crankshaft seems a little iffy. What did they do to the old race cars? My PB went 113.75 mph with a flathead I made and 135 mph with a '57 Ford V8 head. My email is V4GR@rcn.com

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#509585 - 05/14/08 12:12 AM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: RichFox]
Bob Scafani Offline
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Hi Rich, The block I have for the Morton and Brett has been plumbed for full pressure. We could use that with the Roof 16 valve head in your roadster.

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#509678 - 05/14/08 12:16 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: Bob Scafani]
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Maybe I could come over there and look at that. Or you could come here and see the roadster. I guess they came through the main caps with the oil? RF

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#510062 - 05/15/08 11:32 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: RichFox]
alsfarms Offline
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How about posting a few pictures of the early Dodge speed equipment for all of us to dream about.

Alan

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#521601 - 07/06/08 06:44 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: alsfarms]
Bob Scafani Offline
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here is a photo of a roof 16 valve


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#532922 - 08/23/08 09:59 AM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: Bob Scafani]
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I have just completed the Holden carby conversion similar to Brian from Oz on my '23 tourer. I cannot believe the difference in performance it has made. It actually accelerates up hills that it used to struggle with and has made driving my Dodge a much more pleasant experience all round. I might add it is a lot safer being able to keep up with the flow of traffic as well.


Edited by John McEwan (08/23/08 10:01 AM)

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#534608 - 08/31/08 08:46 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: John McEwan]
alsfarms Offline
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Hello Bob and John,
Bob.....do you own the Roof head? If so have you ever run it? What is the second head in your picture? I could find no definitive information on your chassis? Have you?

John......drop some pictures so we can see how you approached the replacement carburetor? I am considering an upgrade when I install the Ricardo head on my touring car.

Regards, Alan

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#534656 - 09/01/08 01:21 AM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: alsfarms]
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Registered: 10/23/07
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Loc: melb,australia
Bob i like the 16 valve head. Tell us how it works, is there a cover over the valves? What type of carby, where does the exhuast go does it use the same cam with push rods?
What year? Can i have one pleeease. Well done John on carby conversion. It's great isn't it. Does it look anything like my setup. Regards Brian

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#535861 - 09/05/08 10:36 PM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: alsfarms]
Bob Scafani Offline
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Hello Al,

I own the Roof 16 valve. I have not run it. I sold one to a fellow near here that has his running. His name is Amil Gehrke 707 778 1525. the only definitive thing I know about the chassis is that scrap steel is $240.00 a ton.

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#535912 - 09/06/08 10:45 AM Re: 1923 Dodge Bros. Ricardo head [Re: Bob Scafani]
alsfarms Offline
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Registered: 01/30/05
Posts: 144
Loc: Utah
Hello Bob,

I did get one reply from my several requests for information on other AACA forums, regarding the mystery chassis you have. The guy was from the central upper states, I think, he has yet to make any suggestions. The chassis is probably not real a real obscure Make but not something many people see bare very often??? Do you know of any overhead valve heads available for our early Dodge Bros.? You probably are not looking to sell yours?

Regards,
Alan

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