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#491501 - 03/02/08 12:51 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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...though I am giving it new life as a different tool. Exactly... Making something Special, from something ordinary. That's why I used one from an Inexpensive set, and it can still be used as an ordinary socket, just won't be quite as strong. I checked and it is the 7/8" size I used also.
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#491608 - 03/02/08 11:34 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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OK, I made the "tool" using a die grinder, blocked the fly wheel with a piece of wood and the screw came out fairly easy. Victory on the first try. I like how these "easy" ones. Though now I need to pick up a replacement socket at the April Portland swap meet.Now for the next step.
What kind of puller would you use to remove the pulley and the dampener? Steering wheel puller?
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#491672 - 03/03/08 11:22 AM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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What kind of puller would you use to remove the pulley and the dampener? You want to pull on the inner part of balancer and pulley, not the outer. If your's is the design I think it is, you can use this type puller (which is also used for steering-wheels): http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=37824
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#491691 - 03/03/08 12:43 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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Thanks,I have simple steering wheel puller and a pulley puller like puller Looks like the Harbor Freight one is more flexible. I called Damper Dudes. 2 day turnaround @ $225. They refurbish the entire dampener.
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#491696 - 03/03/08 01:03 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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You do NOT want to use a pulley-puller. It can damage the balancer.
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#491700 - 03/03/08 01:29 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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I would use the wheel puller. The pulley puller might pull the vulcanized center out needlessly, or rather pull the outer discs away from the vulcanized center.
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#491709 - 03/03/08 02:10 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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There are two tapped holes in the center making it easy to use a steering wheel puller or harmonic balancer puller.
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#491710 - 03/03/08 02:17 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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I can't remember for the life of me how I pulled mine off. I had to drive wooden wedges behind the pulley (which is on the back side), of the '29 Standard-8, since there's no puller attachment bolt holes in that balancer. Luckily it came off fairly easy, before bending anything. I've seen a larger version of the one I linked to above, that would be great for the '29 balancer, but I didn't have one.
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#491727 - 03/03/08 03:33 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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Is the puller part of the dampener so if I pull off the pully the dampener will come off with it? I thought it would be two puller oprations. One for the pulley and one for the dampener.
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#491764 - 03/03/08 06:10 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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So the bolts must be on the side you can't see. I'll try the steering wheel puller tonight. Thanks for the advice on it being heavy.
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#491791 - 03/03/08 08:22 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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So the bolts must be on the side you can't see. Not on mine they are on the front side.
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#491805 - 03/03/08 09:30 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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I soooo don't get it. Ken, if you get yours off, could you please post some pictures?
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#491811 - 03/03/08 09:38 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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I will post pictures. ETA of success is 4 hours from now 
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#491840 - 03/04/08 12:12 AM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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I will post pictures. ETA of success is 4 hours from now Well beat the ETA by 2 hours! That included getting some fine thread bolts for the steering wheel puller which the one I bought had none. I bought the whole puller as I didn't know what other surprise I would find and I didn't want to make another trip. It was a 2 pull operation. First the pulley and then the dampener. No bolts were holding the pully to the dampener.
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#491843 - 03/04/08 12:23 AM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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Oh and yes thanks to all who provided advice. This has been a very interesting thread and I hope more will learn from it.
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#491860 - 03/04/08 06:34 AM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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Hope you take out those 6 filister head screws and educate yourself about the inner workings before you ship it off for rebuilding. It's interesting and nothing you can mess up. Maybe post a pic of the "guts"? Maybe it was revulcanized in the past and you can save a few bucks!
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#491870 - 03/04/08 08:12 AM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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Hope you take out those 6 filister head screws and educate yourself about the inner workings Yes, I'd be interested in seeing that myself! Wayne
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#491907 - 03/04/08 09:56 AM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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Hope you take out those 6 filister head screws and educate yourself about the inner workings Yes! Go TBrid, Go TBrid, Go TBrid...Give me a D...Give me an A...Give me an M... Give me a P, Give me... Give me more coffee?
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#491964 - 03/04/08 12:36 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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It has already been shipped. I think I let that "idiot" Tom take his 31 apart  Tom...that "idiot" reply was definitely not meant for you but for the owner of the car. At first it appears that way, but the author should had quoted the exact post in his reply to remove all doubts.
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#491968 - 03/04/08 12:49 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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Ken, It was early when I read that so I thought it was pointed at me. I may just miss read it. My dampener is all nicely painted so I am hesitating to take mine apart now. Do you all think I need to take mine apart? Where is my dunce cap 
Edited by Packin31 (03/04/08 12:50 PM)
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#491972 - 03/04/08 12:56 PM
Re: Help: Timing marks on 733
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Hey, we all just want to see pictures of the Inside of one. I sure wouldn't take it apart, unless it is falling apart already.
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