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#481110 - 01/22/08 05:07 PM
steering wheel for 23-4-35
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Registered: 09/26/07
Posts: 11
Loc: Seattle, WA
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The steering wheel on our project 5-passenger Touring Car is badly cracked/fractured across grain at about the 7:00 position.
Is this salvageable? How much would you expect to pay for repairing a wooden steering wheel?
If I am out looking for replacements, what years will work on this car? 21-28? Not sure how interchangeable it is across years.
Any clues/experiences appreciated, -Byron Seattle
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#481152 - 01/22/08 07:54 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: bkrystad]
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Registered: 06/08/05
Posts: 1177
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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Byron, You can repair it if you use a good glue like "Gorilla Glue" & make a fixture and/or use a cinch strap to compress & hold the multiple finger joints together until it dries.
Otherwise you can expect to pay $100 - $300 on Ebay or at a swap meet if you can find one.
Good luck...
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Mark Shaw BCA PWD Director HCCA Member (Skagit & Portland) 1913 Model 31 Touring 1915 Model C-25 "Speedster" 1924 Model 45 "Roadster Truck" 1929 Model 29-27 Sedan (Now my son's car) 1931 Model 57 Sedan 1938 Model 48 Sedan
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#481153 - 01/22/08 08:04 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: Mark Shaw]
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Registered: 09/26/07
Posts: 11
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Thanks Mark! I'm not sure my carpentry skills are any better than my metal skills, but it's good to know someone might be able to work on it with the right setup.
Do I have to look for a 23 steering wheel, or will a 21, 22, 24, 26 ... work on my 23?
Edited by bkrystad (01/22/08 08:14 PM)
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#481199 - 01/22/08 11:33 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: bkrystad]
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Registered: 06/08/05
Posts: 1177
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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Byron, The column sizes and lever rods may be the same for several years, but the horn buttons are different through those same years.
Perhaps you should post the demensions of yours so others will know if they have one that fits.
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Mark Shaw BCA PWD Director HCCA Member (Skagit & Portland) 1913 Model 31 Touring 1915 Model C-25 "Speedster" 1924 Model 45 "Roadster Truck" 1929 Model 29-27 Sedan (Now my son's car) 1931 Model 57 Sedan 1938 Model 48 Sedan
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#481219 - 01/23/08 03:56 AM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: Mark Shaw]
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Registered: 02/10/02
Posts: 412
Loc: Sweden
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Just wonder if the US steering wheels are different from Canada built cars.But here are the US builted. Leif in Sweden.
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#481312 - 01/23/08 01:07 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: Mark Shaw]
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Registered: 02/10/02
Posts: 412
Loc: Sweden
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This is not right for 4cyl.model.If this steering wheel is 1924 it`s a Master mod.?The picture show how the levels look like on 1922-1924.The steering wheel on my Buick 1924 4cyl. is Canada model. Leif in Sweden.
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#481313 - 01/23/08 01:09 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: Leif Holmberg]
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Registered: 02/10/02
Posts: 412
Loc: Sweden
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Sorry,what I meen was that this E-Bay Steering Wheel are wrong for 4cyl.mod. Leif in sweden
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#481315 - 01/23/08 01:15 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: Mark Shaw]
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Registered: 09/26/07
Posts: 11
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Thanks, Mark!
I'm asking the seller for a part number today. It looks like there were two steering wheels over 22-24, 170799 and 170800 (according to the 23 parts manual I have). The one for the 4-34, 4-35, and special chassis is the 170799 wheel.
Does anyone have a parts manual for 22 and/or 24? Do they mention two steering wheels, also?
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#481335 - 01/23/08 02:22 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: Leif Holmberg]
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Registered: 12/27/00
Posts: 122
Loc: Sherborn MA USA
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Leif, Is that a 23 or 24 in the pic. it looks like a 23. I have a wheel that looks just like that and was thinking of using it on my 22-55 untill I find a correct wheel for the 22-23 Sport Touring. Does any one have one ?? John Beatty
1922-6-55 Sport Touring
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#481356 - 01/23/08 03:36 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: jbbuick22]
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Registered: 09/26/07
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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Here are some photos to describe what I'm wrestling with: http://picasaweb.google.com/bkrystad/Buick_steering_wheel?authkey=I2Xd6J9nsMYThe steering wheel in the parts manual I have for 1923 has metal spokes, not wood, like Leif's. I posted a bitmap of the one from the parts manual. I just took these photos of our steering wheel (the broken one). It has metal spokes, like 170799, but I can't find a part number printed anywhere, only "39 Ml" (???) on one of the spokes. My dad only remembers this steering wheel from his childhood, so I have to assume it's original. And the 24 wheel on ebay right now isn't the right match for the 23-4-35. It's fancier, perhaps from a six or the sedans? Anyone out there have 170799 in better shape than the one in my photos? Dimensions are 14.75 inch inner diameter, 17.25 inch outer diameter, and it has a flat, straight hub.
Edited by bkrystad (01/23/08 04:33 PM)
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#481397 - 01/23/08 05:30 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: bkrystad]
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Registered: 02/10/02
Posts: 412
Loc: Sweden
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To jbbuick22. The photo is on my 1924 Canadin buit Buick 4cyl.mod-35 To bkrystad. The pictures on the site you show is the right type for your 1923. Leif in Sweden.
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#481566 - 01/24/08 08:22 AM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: Leif Holmberg]
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Registered: 02/10/02
Posts: 412
Loc: Sweden
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Here are a picture on steering wheel from 1925 Buick Master. Leif in Sweden
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#481615 - 01/24/08 10:50 AM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: Leif Holmberg]
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Registered: 02/10/02
Posts: 412
Loc: Sweden
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I scanned a photo from a Buick 1923 4cyl.mod.I had years ago. Leif in Sweden.
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#482129 - 01/26/08 08:47 AM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: jbbuick22]
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Registered: 09/20/01
Posts: 103
Loc: Bath, PA
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There's a guy in Nazareth, PA who specializes in restoring wooden steering wheels like yours. I searched Hemmings for him but couldn't find him. He's at Hershey every year and owns a few Franklins.
Maybe someone here has the vendor listing from one of the Hershey meets and can find his name.
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#484248 - 02/02/08 04:04 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: 1940_Buick]
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Registered: 12/30/05
Posts: 97
Loc: Fenton, Michigan
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I'm chuckling here in Michigan.
The wheel on my '23 looks pretty much like the one you have. It's been fixed up a bit with some sort of high grade marine wood putty in a few spots by the spokes I'm guessing 25 years ago and is fairly round. I get more comments about the size of the original wheel and how wonderful it looks all worn by the oil and grease of who knows how many hands shining it smooth.
I've seen wheels that are restored works of art too.
Does anyone have an idea of the original finish?
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#485241 - 02/06/08 12:11 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: bkrystad]
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Registered: 03/11/00
Posts: 761
Loc: Bellflower, Ca., Los Angeles C...
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FROM THE 1930 MASTER PARTS BOOK: The steering wheel is the same for all 4 cy. cars from 1922 to 1924 PART NO. 170800 except the 1923-model 39.
That does not mean that a steering wheel from another year would not fit on your steering column.
From 1924 on the 6 cyl. cars had a different spark and throtle lever arrangement and you would have to make serious modifications to use one.
The 1923 6 cylinder and earlier cars used the same type spark and throttle lever arrangement.
My opinion is that if you can not find a 1922 - 24 4 cyl. steering wheeL, it would be better to replace the wood in the one you have.
1922 Illustrated parts book gives # 151574 for the 4 cyl steering wheel.
1924 Illuarated parts book gives # 170799 for the 4 cyl. steering wheel.
Fred Rawling Bellflower, CA
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#485242 - 02/06/08 12:14 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: Fred Rawling]
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Registered: 03/11/00
Posts: 761
Loc: Bellflower, Ca., Los Angeles C...
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One additional thing: My understanding is that the wood on these steering wheels was formed under heat and pressure.
If that is the case, duplicating one exactly will be very difficult.
Fred
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#485248 - 02/06/08 12:33 PM
Re: steering wheel for 23-4-35
[Re: 1940_Buick]
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Registered: 11/12/99
Posts: 1521
Loc: Middletown, PA. USA
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1940_Buick,
The fellow that makes new wood steering wheels in Nazareth, PA. is Glenn Snyder at Snyder's Woodcrafting Shop and he does excellent work. The last wheel he did for me was originally made from 8 pcs, grooved on each side. It was a first for him, for that type of wheel and he perfected it. For Glenn to do that Buick wheel should be no problem. Look to spend about $400.00 to $500.00 on the average.
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