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#409493 - 02/28/07 06:04 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: Packard enthus.]
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West - tell me it isnt true...did you REALLY take the duck off the radiator ?

The duck is gone. In this doctored photo, I'm getting an idea of what it will look like without the white sidewalls. Also, I've taken out the front license plate.


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#409494 - 02/28/07 07:22 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: West Peterson]
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you...you...duck killer...!
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#409495 - 02/28/07 07:22 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: West Peterson]
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West,

How long are you planing to stay at the meet in Moline? I need to wing it past the wife again. But it does sound like a great invitation. To bad my car won't be ready by then. We can take this of line later
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#409496 - 02/28/07 08:11 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: Packard enthus.]
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you...you...duck killer...!

I got to thinkin', by 1940, running boards were a little old-fashioned looking, so I think I'll have to take those off... the sidemounts too, are a bit outdated looking on the sleek late 1940s Packards. A nice NOS set of Darrin front fenders ought to do the trick, and extra long rocker panel cover, some rear fender skirts, and a little liberty with the rear quarter windows, and we've got ourselves a real looker here!!


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#409497 - 02/28/07 08:25 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: West Peterson]
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what next..."lowering" kit...glass packs...beaver tail for the antenna..? chop and channel...? Get rid of that silly old Laidlaw broadcloth upholstery for some nice "tuck and roll" leatherette..?

SAVE THE DUCK...MAKE WEST PUT THAT DUCK BACK ON...

(for those of you who dont understand our clowning around...one of the most-well known hood ornaments of Packard from the early 1930's clear down to the end of "real" Packard production, was a bird. Few things drive us Packard owners crazier than a well-meaning but innocent person referring to it as a DUCK...! What it SHOULD be called is a subject of considerable debate...best conducted after consuming appropriate amounts of...well.."adult" beverages.

I have seen literature identifying it as a swan..a comorant...and a pelican. BUT NEVER EVER CALL OUR 'BIRDS'...A DUCK !
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#409498 - 02/28/07 08:39 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: Packard enthus.]
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I prefer Duck. Since no one really knows what it is, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, let's call it a duck.
If there's anything I like to do, it's irritate people.
Like when I owned my Porsche, I just loved to talk to Porsche people and say, Porsh. Talk about getting the neck hairs up. I figured since I owned one, I could call it whatever the heck I wanted.
You don't see Chevrolet people get all up in arms when you say Chev. Or Mercry people cry fowl if you say Merc. What is it about Porsche people when you call the darn little things Porsh??

By the way, I can't hang a beaver tail from the antenna. If you look closely, that got taken off too <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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#409499 - 02/28/07 10:46 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: West Peterson]
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Here, gentleman, is your duck. Gotta be the most elegant boid that ever swam in a pond.
Shore is purty, reckon we oughta get the 30-ought-6 and kill it?!


http://mmm.lib.msu.edu/search/imagedisplay.cfm?i=EB01e032
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(This post has no affiliation whatsoever with Ducks Unlimited).


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#409500 - 02/28/07 11:55 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: TG57Roadmaster]
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That's beautiful...even for a "duck"! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#409501 - 03/01/07 12:31 AM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: R W Burgess]
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#409502 - 03/01/07 01:33 AM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: TG57Roadmaster]
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That kid must be pretty confident if he thinks he can hit that rear wheel from that distance. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Attached is one just exactly like it... in modern times. AACA National Award winner this year. The bloke lives in Williamsburg, Virginia.


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#409503 - 03/01/07 01:43 AM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: West Peterson]
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Pissin' or spittin', or both? And I thought a picture was gonna say a thousand words! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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#409504 - 03/01/07 08:03 AM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: TG57Roadmaster]
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West--I'm assuming the Porsche people would rather you pronounce it Porsh-uh?


Q:What's the difference between a porcupine and a Porsche?

A: The pricks are on the OUTSIDE of a porcupine
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#409505 - 03/01/07 12:56 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: mrpushbutton]
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"melted Beetle" doesn't sit real well in Stuttgart either

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#409506 - 03/01/07 12:59 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: bkazmer]
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as to the Old fashioned running board, duck, etc - looking at the advertising for the 41's, you generally see the newer look with no running boards, the stylized "feather" ornament, and painted headlight rims.

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#409507 - 03/01/07 01:42 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: West Peterson]
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Stumbled on this thread and now I see why our new issue of the magazine may be a day or so late! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> West, get back to work! Your hours are 24/7! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

It seems AACA's editor has now explained his philosophy to me in terms I can understand. Here I thought his attempts to irritate me where personal! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I think it is time I called your dad, West! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#409508 - 03/01/07 02:46 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: Steve Moskowitz]
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Heh, heh, heh... I didn't think he'd find me in here.
Gotta go... bye! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
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#409509 - 03/01/07 03:52 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: West Peterson]
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But West, your picture is "Overkilled" with whitewalls. And it has a Duck! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#409510 - 03/01/07 04:01 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: West Peterson]
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By the way, I can't hang a beaver tail from the antenna. If you look closely, that got taken off too <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


West, Now in all my years I never saw anyone hang a beaver tail from a car antenna. Fox and raccoon tails maybe but never a beaver! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#409511 - 03/01/07 04:39 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: Clipper47]
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Evidently he has the same problem with "furred" animals as "feathered" ones. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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#409512 - 03/01/07 05:23 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: R W Burgess]
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I was only replying to Pete, who asked me if I was going to hang a beaver tail on the antenna. I guess I never even thought twice about how wierd that would look, not to mention that it would probably bend the antenna. All I was thinking was that I had already taken the antenna off, so there wasn't any where to hang nothin'.
Anyone have a set of 160-180 fenders without sidemounts. I just may do some of that stuff. I won't go as far as to block out the rear quarter window, or take the running boards off, but skirts, sidemounts and black sidewall tires is certainly doable, and well within the "It Could Have Been Ordered That Way."
Oh... I forgot to mention the duck. The duck is dead.
Ooops. I think I hear Steve comin' down the stairs again. Gotta run. Bye. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
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#409513 - 03/01/07 05:43 PM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: West Peterson]
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.....and he thought he was getting a good deal taking that job. Locked in a cage in the basement of headquarters 24/7. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />


Even the terrorists get to read the Koran or some sort of material daily. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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#409514 - 03/02/07 01:20 AM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: BillP]
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About that 33-34 Packard sedan. In order for dealers to clear out stock before the new model year, Packard Motor Car Company offered a conversion kit to update '33's to the appearance of '34's. Among other things, this included the distinctive turned-down-in-front fenders of the '34.

The famous Dietrich designed Car of the Dome is a 33 that underwent this conversion in the middle of the night during a show, the schedule of which fell across model year change time.

Thus, it was not uncommon to find converted 33's (complete with the poorly designed vent windows) on the road. I presume that in those more casual times, they were even registered as '34's.


I have read a lot about this era of Packards (32-34), I have never heard or read anything about this 33 to 34 conversion. Where did you find this info? I know they did offer a 31 to 32 conversion.

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#409515 - 03/02/07 01:24 AM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: R W Burgess]
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Boys, boys,


http://mmm.lib.msu.edu/search/imagedisplay.cfm?i=EB01d728

Can we get back on tread, er, Thread here? Take a "gander" at this lovely '34 Packard 1108 Sedan entering the Packard Proving Ground. Forget the: "Circus Wagon" color; WW versus BW; Accessory gewgaw debate...Why was so much of Packard (and other cars of the realm) advertising geared to folks who lived in Cotswold Cottages?

I guess it's got to do with the perception that these rich folk had money to burn, whether it was "Old" money, or "New" money. As one who accessed the gold vault at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (to put in a new phone system) in 1986, I can assure you that, old or new, a pallette of C-notes looks, and spends, really sweetly!

TG


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#409516 - 03/02/07 07:18 AM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: TG57Roadmaster]
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this thread has certainly exceeded the one-per-month rate that the CCCA forum usually gets!
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#409517 - 03/02/07 07:54 AM Re: Whitewall overkill [Re: mrpushbutton]
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Yeah. The CCCA and AACA must doing well on Google this week. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Tom
That 1108 Packard is "entering" the proving ground.

Ken
I don't doubt what Bill is saying about the 1933-34 twist. He's exactly right about the Car of the Dome car.
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