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#302976 - 09/30/05 08:19 AM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
[Re: Smartin]
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Registered: 07/14/03
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Loc: NE Georgia
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It took me about 6 hours to clean and sand the wheel houses to prep them for paint So Adam, I gotta ask, Is this your day job as well as your night job?
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#302981 - 10/16/05 02:41 PM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
[Re: Smartin]
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Registered: 03/04/02
Posts: 1945
Loc: St. Charles, MO
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Hit the proverbial "wall:" Need to know what way the thermostat goes in!  I don't want to install it upside down...
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#302983 - 10/17/05 12:55 AM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
[Re: Smartin]
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Registered: 01/29/05
Posts: 756
Loc: SC Coast
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Adam, thermostats always go in with the spring side twords the block. THIS SIDE UP.  THIS SIDE DOWN.
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#302985 - 10/17/05 10:07 PM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
[Re: Smartin]
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Registered: 03/01/02
Posts: 730
Loc: Canada
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Got a couple parts back on this weekend  Still stumped on the thermostat position question, though.. Nice work Adam, This is something I should do to all my cars, they all look bad under their hoods. The only detailing I have done so far was applying wrong color spray paint over the rust, dirt, oil, hoses and wiring on my 65 Wildcat! Can somebody tell me where to get a kit to rebuild the original fuel pump for my 65 401? I bought one at my local Buick dealership but it's sealed. The old one was still pumping fuel but it was also pumping oil under the hood (which I haven't cleaned yet...)! About the thermostat, the one I have in my 65 doesn't look like the other thermostats I have seen. I'll try to explain how it looks: The top part doesn't have a "pin" extending above it and the thermostat door doesn't "slide" on it. If I remember well, it opens in a similar way to a 60's car vent window: the door has hinges in it's center section and when it opens one side of the door goes up and the other side goes down... I'm wondering if it's the original. I recently have done a tune up on it and the points and the condenser were old Delco points with a separate Delco condenser, they probably dated from the seventies. The plug wiring is also made by Delco and has rubber parts that entirely covers the spark plug holes in the heads. Is wiring like this still available?
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#302986 - 10/19/05 09:55 PM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
[Re: Philippe Racicot]
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Registered: 03/04/02
Posts: 1945
Loc: St. Charles, MO
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Phil, The same type of thermostat you are describing was in this car...in fact, I still have it in a box in the garage. ..doing some putzing before I try to turn the key for the first time.. I have to change the oil and charge the battery before I let it rip.  I have some cleaning up to do after I get it all together, but it's lookin' pretty good now. For some reason, no one has 7/64 vacuum line.  
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#302987 - 10/19/05 10:57 PM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
[Re: Smartin]
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Registered: 07/14/03
Posts: 3728
Loc: NE Georgia
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Lookin good Adam!!
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Lamar in Athens, Georgia BCA- 39474, 1959 BDBCA-0021, AACA-228846 1954 BUICK "The Beautiful Buy"1954 Roadmaster 76R, 2 DR HT - DoraB, (Irene,gone down under) 1954 Roadmaster 72R 4 DR - Buttercup, Dakota, Blue Belle, Virginia, Marietta, "High Society" (thank you Paul Meyer) 1954 Century 66R 2 DR HT- "54Muscle" w/3 speed stick(thank you Jim Schilf & Norm Kortus), Mary Jane Verkauft bis ein, wer 54 Buicks in Deutschland liebt, dankt Freund 1954 Special 41D 4 DR Deluxe Sedan 3 speed- Sugar Magnolia
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#302989 - 10/20/05 07:46 PM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
[Re: Smartin]
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Registered: 11/12/99
Posts: 2512
Loc: Mars Pa USA
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THREE CHEERS!!!!!!
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#302990 - 10/20/05 09:02 PM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
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Posts: 2413
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#302991 - 10/20/05 10:17 PM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
[Re: Thriller]
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Registered: 05/26/05
Posts: 133
Loc: northern Ohio
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Ain't nuthin finer, than when you light one off for the first time. YessirreeBob!
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#302993 - 10/20/05 10:57 PM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
[Re: Smartin]
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Long Time Member
Registered: 11/12/99
Posts: 2512
Loc: Mars Pa USA
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What's after that list? A Senior in Rochester perhaps?
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Keith Bleakney Club affiliations: Lambda Car Club International , AACA, BCA #11475 1967(3517) Special Deluxe Hardtop AACA/BCA Sr 1972(46667)Centurion Convertible 2004 Rendezvous CXL We could learn a lot from crayons. Some are sharp, some are pretty, and some are dull. Some have weird names, and all are different colors. But they all have to live in the same box.
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#302994 - 10/20/05 11:10 PM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
[Re: my3buicks]
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Registered: 03/04/02
Posts: 1945
Loc: St. Charles, MO
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I hope so!! It received a senior award in 1994 when it was first done with a "cosmetic" restoration. Basically, all the stuff you could see was repainted. I'm going to see if I can attach the senior badge to the grille, but it may prove to be difficult with the shape of the grille itself. I'll have to fab a bracket. But yes, Rochester is its first BCA stop 
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#302997 - 10/22/05 08:18 PM
Re: 1960 Electra 225 Convertible R&R
[Re: Smartin]
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Registered: 11/19/03
Posts: 1335
Loc: Minnesota
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Adam,
You might want to go after that choke linkage yourself. I think it's unlikely, unless something is missing, that anything is actually in need of replacement or rebuilding. The linkage might just be out of alignment, sticking, or need adjustment. The accelerator pump is of course a different story. I found it fairly easy to tinker with the choke and fast idle when I had the '65 Electra. Nothing computer-controlled here!
This reminds me of a dreaded flaw in the Buick accelerator linkage of this era. The problem definitely applied in '65, and a '60 nailhead may have the same ailment. If the motor mount on the driver's side breaks or gets loose, the engine will torque over under load and pull the throttle wide open. It's a horrible feeling when this happens when you're driving, which is the usual scenario. Sucks the pedal right down under your foot, and usually the only thing you can do to stop the car is turn off the key!
This can happen even with BRAND NEW motor mounts, as it did to me. A new motor mount was sheared right off within a few hundred miles of an engine swap. Typically, these cars were supposed to be fitted with a chain or cable "hold down" on the driver's side front of the engine. I think this was a safety re-call item and I believe it could be considered "correct." Even if a judge were to quibble, I think you could make a good case for it--maybe even have a copy of the recall with you if you can get one. Either way, it's better to get the car and yourself to the show in one piece.
The first warning that the engine is on a runaway is usually that you hear the fan hitting the shroud. An ugly sound and not good for the fan or the shroud!
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