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#180456 - 09/26/03 12:17 PM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett
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#180457 - 09/26/03 01:40 PM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett [Re: EDBS0]
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Okay, put it on where I think its goes. Readings in diagnostics

Spark Advancec: 21 @ idle in park
Air Flow: 7.9 gm/sex @ idle in park

I put it in the 3 slot black box ontop of the MAF. If this is wrong please let me know. Also, lemme know how close to stock those diags are. This was just 2 seconds ago.

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#180458 - 09/26/03 04:40 PM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett
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Might also record the injector pulse width and the coolant temp.
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#180459 - 09/26/03 07:03 PM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett [Re: padgett]
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Wow, its running like crap. I dont know if I did something wrong.

Padgett, heres the rest of the stuff you wanted:

Injector Pulse: 4.3
Coolant Temp: 98

I also got a code: E034

Whats the code, and any clue whats causing the sluggish performance? It seems like its not going into overdrive and its slugging along bad.

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#180460 - 09/26/03 07:05 PM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett
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could you take a picture how you did it. am old man and it takes to long to figure it out. thanks larry

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#180461 - 09/26/03 08:08 PM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett
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Got mine installed and not certain that it has made a lot of differance?

ED23 which I expected to be influencing reads normally? It is a couple degrees over ambient temperature.

Summary of this year's data...

MPH 36.2 average
MPG average 18.1
164 hours 25 minutes
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#180462 - 09/26/03 09:19 PM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett *DELETED*
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#180463 - 09/26/03 11:25 PM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett
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Is it two orange, brown gold, or gold brown two orange? Because thats a huge difference...

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#180464 - 09/27/03 12:19 AM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett
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#180465 - 09/27/03 12:50 AM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett [Re: EDBS0]
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Okay, well whats my E034 code mean?

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#180466 - 09/27/03 01:49 AM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett
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could be you toasted the MAF or just have a poor connection.

Any symptoms?
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#180467 - 09/27/03 03:01 AM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett [Re: EDBS0]
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Back in the '50s, we used to call things like this "Wishful Thinking in a Bottle/Can/Box." Plates that went under the carburetor, thingamajigs that attached to the distributor cap, three-pronged spark plugs, gold ignition wires, crap you poured into your gas tank/crankcase/carb, ad nauseum. Barnum was right.

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#180468 - 09/27/03 08:12 AM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett [Re: ALF1]
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But our Strombergs on Edelbrock manifolds with Iskenderian cams and Offenhauser finned aluminum heads sure worked well on our 59AB flatheads back then, didn't they?! And they didn't come from the Ford store that way.

I'm skeptical, too, but if I knew for sure that something wouldn't turn cherry red and fall out the bottom onto the asphalt, I'd try it. 'Smatter of fact, I picked up a couple of the resistors and am waiting for a longer term result before I stick 'em in....but I'm chicken. I just replaced a MAF sensor on my pickemup truck - $70.
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#180469 - 09/27/03 10:57 PM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett [Re: EDBS0]
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The car was running like crap. Took twice as long to run up through first gear. I mean like I was towing another reatta behind me! It was horrid. It did it randomly. More so when the car was at operating temp. The Car would bog down, seemed to struggle in higher RPMs and just plain didnt do what it was supposed to. I pulled the resister and bingo. No light, all power back to normal. Im going to try it again, reset the comp, hook it up and see what happens, but if anything like that happens again, Im forgeting it. And I dont think I fried the MAF, its only 6 months old. And for those who are worried, I will just warn you of this, it cost a lot more for a MAF than for a pickup.

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#180470 - 09/28/03 02:22 AM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett [Re: DTerry]
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Brother Terry, don't get me obsessing on the days of Stromberg 97 carbs, 8CM Merc engine swaps, itty-bitty head gaskets to increase the compression ration to 8.5-1, Appleton spots, Merry Widows with 108 snaps up the back. Gad, those were the days....

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#180471 - 09/28/03 12:17 PM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett [Re: ALF1]
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Okay, I couldn't resist. Had to try it. Plugged it in, drove it about 5 miles, stopped, went, accelerated, etc. Subjectively, I seemed to feel - maybe - a vague improvement, until I removed it; and then really could tell no difference. Wishful thinking? At least nothing blew up. Yet.

Under WOT with the resistor in, it cut out at high rpm. Twice. 'Course it may do that all the time since I never tromp it to wide open. I no longer "Drive it like I stole it", but more "Drive it like I paid cash with no warranty". Age, maybe?

By the way, Alf, I tried the itty-bitty head gaskets once, '52 flathead Ford, and it was a total disaster. Coolant leaked from every port.
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#180472 - 09/29/03 02:27 PM Re: 20 HP+ PART - Attn. Padgett [Re: DTerry]
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Final report: My daughter got as far as the end of the alley this morning, and the car was hesitating so badly that she came back to have me fix it. I yanked the resistor out, dropped it in the trash, and all is back to normal. Oh, well, it was interesting. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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