I don't know, Scott- you might be surprised what 7g can buy. I paid less than that for the 64 Starfire coupe I bought in June and it is a damn nice car. Found a one owner all original 76 Caddy Coupe deVille a couple weeks back, 73k miles and pretty much perfect cosmetically for $1500 and everything works- an important consideration on a Cadawack. It's been stored seven years so needs fuel system cleaned and brakes gone thru to make it roadworthy, still cheap considering the overall condition. I want it, but I don't have anywhere to put it and it is too nice to leave sitting outside.

There's deals out there if you don't mind going off the beaten path a bit.

Very Nice car !!
I currently have a 65 Coupe in almost same condition> Interested in your convertible ? Can you email the selling price, and if anyone is interested in my couple can also email me at mark@stoeltingco.com

By the way, I finally heard back from the owner of that turquoise Starfire 4-speed convertible in Midland, Michigan. He let me know his asking price. Hang on to your hats, he's asking $55,000.

I sure hope he likes this car. Because, he's going to have it for a loooooong time at that price.

Well, Rocketraider I hate to argue (actually that's not true, I love to argue) but I just got back from Fall Hershey and if prices there are to be believed, 7 grand buys very little these days! Seriously though there was a car there that I must mention...and I will...in a separate thread.

Don't believe them. Real world prices are always lower. Every spring I see outrageously priced cars at the Charlotte AutoFair and the owners won't dicker price at all. I see the same cars three weeks later in Carlisle for a couple thousand less and they're willing to deal. By summer they're in AutoTrader for considerably less money.

In the last 6 months a friend and I have both bought desirable and very nice condition cars with interesting history for under $7000. Four years ago he bought a fully (and I do mean everything) optioned 64 GP for under $5g and turned out it was one of 860 tripowers made and originally invoiced to Atlanta BOP assembly. 'Twas the Pontiac Division head manager's company car. And all we've done is detail the engine, it was that nice.

Of course, we didn't find them in a swap meet car corral either.

Plus you've got to remember- the stock market is in a cyclic slump, and anytime that happens, old car prices skyrocket. Happened in 89, happened in 78. The highrollers get into it as "investments", then when the market recovers prices drop to normal and realistic.

RR, I was being facetious about the prices at Hershey, of course...still, I for one never seem to find the "steals" when buying, and never seem to get the "premium" when selling. Anything. Sigh. Good thing I aint in it for the money, right?!

Well, if you were in it for the money you'd be in a mainstream car forum, where all they talk about is Tri-Five Chevys, 1st generation Camaros or Mustangs <img src="/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif" alt="" /> .

Now that I've managed to [censored] off the folks who love those cars...

Well, here we are nearly a year later (counting from my original "for sale" post)...so does 7 grand still get you very much in 2003, RR? That is still what I want for my Starfire, which once again I am thinking of selling. Car made it to the Long Island Oldsmobile Club's Spring Dustoff last week, in case anyone reading this saw it there. Was a 140 mile round trip, on the return trip (back to Jersey) in bumper to bumper traffic for a solid hour approaching the Verrazano bridge. Point is, the car performed flawlessly. My left leg is another story...does anyone know what's its like to keep the clutch pedal depressed in one of these cars for the better part of an hour?!

Since my original post, I've installed some very nice, unpitted headlight bezels for the car and even found a nice passenger side taillight bezel (no driver's side yet..if I ever find one I'll install both...these are the worst of the trim items on the car) Here's a link to some pics of the car:

http://www.realoldspower.com/cgi-bin/cla...amp;amp;max=199

Please direct any questions to scottfettner@hotmail.com

Oh man! This car has the Sport Disc wheels I go absolutely ga-ga over.

Scott, do you have any other photos of this car you can email? sparmerlee@yahoo.com

Also, how comfortable is the driver's seat? I've usually leaned more toward bigger luxury cars in that they can be had with 6-way power and a center arm rest. Most of the bucket seats from the 1960's I've been in are painful, due mostly to the severe angle of the seat back.

So if you sell the starfire you don't need a sway bar then do you? Just kidding Scott.It takes a true enthusiast to appreciate these cars.Good Luck

Parm, sent you a message about the car...as for the seats, they are 2-way power only (front to back movement). Cool as buckets are, the bench/split-bench seat big cars are usually more comfortable in my opinion, because of the center arm rest (which provides some lateral support, at least on left turns (!), and also a place to rest your right arm). Hmmm...probably this is also true for the A-body cars.

B-body nut, what sway bar? I didn't say anything about a sway bar. At least not in this thread...he he!

ttt

I have located another 65 Starfire 4 speed convertible near Rockford, Illinois - in a pole barn. I saw it about 5 years ago when I went to look at another car this guy had for sale. Seller wasn't there but his girlfriend was and she let me look around. I haven't looked through all the responses here but spotted rockettraders (sp) first comment about only seeing 2 of these cars. As my wife knows I am an expert at spotting and remembering these rarities. That was 5 years ago but there was ample dust on these pole barn cars. Probably still there. Anyone else heard of this car since? I didn't even bother to call the guy and see if he would sell. Come on, no way he would've parted with that rare car.

Wildcatr

Pretty sure RR was talking about the 4 speed convertible Starfires...there are more coupes than that, and I have seen/know of about 5 1965 Starfires so equipped and 2 1966 versions...and two 4 speed 65 Jetstar Is. Throw in a 65 Delta, a 66 Delta, and a 66 Dynamic I know of, and the car you saw...and my guess is we double that number and there MAY be as many as two dozen of the 4-speed big Oldses extant. I'd say that was a conservative estimate.

I pity that rarity does not translate into my being able to get anything for my car!

Well- saw the car on the electronic auction, and there's another guy with taillight housings, and another with a pair of decent exhaust tips.

I must remember that I have too many cars now and cannot take proper care of what I have... <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

RR, I saw those taillight housings the last time around (they've been relisted), and even considered buying them (don't use logic and ask why someone thinking of SELLING his car would continue to spend money on it). But the seller's definition of "mint" is different than my own. So's his definition of "realistic price". They are pretty nice, though, and would compliment my car. My car's exhaust tips are actually nice.

RR, all practical concerns aside, I really think you should consider buying my car (or at least bidding on it, he he). Seriously though, being as I have been so forthcoming about the car's flaws, anyone who actually BOUGHT the thing would have to be pleasantly surprised by how nice it actually is. Shameless self-promotion, yes I know...

Nothing wrong with that.

As far as another acquisition, I'm fighting the urge to go buy a 71 ElCamino right now. A clean original 6 cyl 3-speed car-truck, which is mighty appealing to me because I do not want one that has been tricked up or has had a crate 350 stuffed into it. And 95% of all ElCaminos you find have been modified to suit popular taste- red, Chevy rallys, engine chrome on a "350 fo' bolt main", all the stuff the masses find appealing. And for what this guy wants for the truck, somebody is gonna buy it and do just that to it. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Scott,

Tried to send you a message through ebay, but it got kicked back. You might want to check your email to make sure things are running correctly.

Anyway, saw your ebay auction for your Starfire and had two questions. 1) What is the condition of the Sport Disc wheels, and; 2) Would you ever consider selling them separately?

Parm, I'm pretty sure there are no problems with my E-mail addys. Also I sent you an E-mail from my hotmail account (which appears numerous times in this thread) in response to your request above for more information (about 3 weeks back).

The sport wheels on my car are pretty nice, not perfect, but nice. I will not separate them from the car.

Three words I thought I would NEVER hear myself say...CAR IS SOLD!

Had to throw in the swaybar to sweeten the deal, but I am happy with what I got for it. Of course, I'm not quite so happy that I spell out that number in this forum!