Mystery Car #2

[Guest piewagon]

Here is the second picture of a different car for your help in identifying. Thanking you guys in advance!

[Dave@Moon]

I believe this is a 1938-1940 Ford product, probably a 1939 Lincoln-Zephyr. It appears to be a very large coupe, and the side of the hood looks to have a large vent/trim piece like the Zephyr (although this may be a reflection).

The radio antenna and square rear view mirror in the picture should help someone place it better than I can. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

[tomchaney]

I think it would be key to look at the brake drums. They do not have studs (that would accept a lugnut) like a Ford product. They appear to want bolts to hold the wheels on. I'm leaning towards a Chrysler product.

[West Peterson]

I think 1940 Plymouth P10

[Mike Cullen]

definitely not a 39 Zephyr. No wing windows on a Zephyr until 40.

[Dave@Moon]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think 1940 Plymouth P10 </div></div>

The fender creases (which are very hard to see) do look like '40 Plymouth. However it looks like the car's too big to be a Plymouth. Even considering the angle of the photo and granting that the woman could be very petite, that gap for the rear seat passenger looks pretty big. Maybe the low angle accounts for that.

Also (and again this could be more a fault of the photo angle than anything else) a '40 Plymouth's belt moulding is straight horizontal until beyond the middle of the back wheel. This one appears to arch, which is why I thought it was a Ford product.

That said, I think West has it right and the photo's angle is what makes this one tough.

[West Peterson]

The camera may have had a wide-angle lens, which caused that curvature. If not, then I see what you mean. I thought maybe Plymouth (or Dodge or DeSoto) had a slant-back sedan where the beltline curved down like that, but I can find no evidence of such.

[drwatson]

Definitely a 1940 Plymouth. Only I thought it was a P9 Roadking because the P10 DeLuxe had stainless steel running board trim.

The young ladys dilemma looks authentic except for one detail. Plymouths of this vintage came with an instuction sheet on the inside of each hubcap. The heavy stock paper sheet gave illustrated directions on how to go about dismounting tire from rim & remounting same. I gained this knowledge from a nice original 41 Plymouth I had the pleasure of owning. Maybe 40's were likewise equipped.

[West Peterson]

The stainless trim came off when she hit the guardrail, which in turn caused her tire to blow out. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

[jimkf]

The car is definitely a Mopar product. They used bolt on (rather than nuts/studs) drums that had a guide pin included, which you can see in the photo. The drums look the same as those used on my Kaisers and Frazers. KF used the same brake parts suppiers as Mopar. As for the exact year and model, looks like that's still open to debate!

[Peter Gariepy]

i vote 40 plymouth

http://www.allpar.com/history/plymouth/1940.html

[zack]

THIS IS DEFINITELY A 40 PLYMOUTH.A 40 DESOTO HAS SIMILAR LINES ON THE FENDER BUT THE REAR FENDER ON THE DESOTO IS BANANA SHAPED AND COMES TO A CLOSED POINT ON THE FRONT EDGE.THE 40 PLYMOUTH IS OPEN ON THE FRONT AND IS LOCATED LOWER AND RUNS INTO THE TOP OF THE WHEEL LIP.

[ACowboy]

I'd say: Female in her early 20's