Guest yonahrr Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 Can anyone tell me what color a 17 DB engine/trans should be?Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 I was hoping someone that really really knew would answer this for you. If my memory is correct DB fours closest engine paint is Renault engine paint, as is Dalphine. Most I've seen use Flathead Ford green, which is a little too blue, I think. I don't think your trans would have been painted. Isn't it aluminum? Don't take this as gospel, maybe by moving this to the top someone that knows absolutely will see it. Leadfoot, JB or RAH are you out there? I'm sure there's others too. Are you a DB member yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 As I answer this, I am beginning to feel that I am a becoming a salesman for Romar, but Romar http://www.geocities.com/romardb/index.html does sell, what is largely considered Dodge Brothers green engine paint. The problem however is that there is no concise answer as to engine paint. For example, I have an early production fast four, and the engine color is black, however another fast four owner I know has green. If you are specifically looking for green, the Romar product is probably the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_RAH Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 Jerry, The correct terminology for the Dodge Brothers engine paint would be 'Ditzler Motor Grey'. It was, over the years, NOT a colorfast color and did range some but is primarily a lighter grey with a slight greenish tint. As for the tranny, depending on what part of '17 would most likely be still the cast aluminum case with engine mount protrusions to the frame. In late '17 the stamped engine mount was introduced with a forshortened, but still aluminum, case. The switch to cast iron wasn't 'till late '18, I believe, off the top of my head. Check out ROMAR, Vern had a color itinerary showing what was black and what was 'Natural' and what would have been grey. Rodger "Dodger" Hartley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB-ed Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 I'll go ahead and toss the wrench into the punch bowl, to mix metaphors. I have an excellent owners manual for 1918 with some great engine pix. In black and white of course. A year ago or so I photographed my recently rebuilt engine, painted in Romar's chartruse/green, put the photos into my computer, converted to black and white, and pasted them side by side with the original owner manual photos. Guess what. It's not the same. Obviously I can't tell color, but the shades of gray and black in the photos are entirely different. I think more research is needed. But if we discover something different, possibly 5000 owners of early Dodges will have to repaint their engines? maybe this is too much information.....I have heard that several restorers of these cars back in the early days of 1950s and 1960 had done some analysis of colors, but as typical, never shared this with anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 18DodgeBrothers Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 I have just finished spray-painting our rebuilt 1917/1918 engine with ROMAR green engine paint that comes in 1 qt can. It looks great! I also have slight color deficient vision in shades of green, so even if I saw an original paint chip from 1917 it wouldn't make me much difference. I like what I see and that is the color I am going with. Engine to be installed 10/18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Per info I have from the 1960s... DuPont DuLux 83503 - 1958 Peugeot green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Hi John,You say that you transfer the photo of your engine to black and white then match itwith a 86 year old book.Come on now the ink of a hi tech copyer the same as the ink of the 86 year old book,The engine color match that ROMAR SELLS was made from orginal green N.O.S. engine parts. until next time .Vern : <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pstork Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 In 1914 the first engines were black. The color of DB engines after the first months was always described as "gray." The paint used would develop a green tinge when exposed to heat and oil over many years. This is seen in certain Packard and Hercules engines, which start off medium gray. Romar is a good company, but has innocently misled hundreds of engine restorers with a little misinformation. Recent Dodge TV adds perpetuate another error showing an early DB car with varnished wooden wheels. The varnishes available a hundred years ago were not very durable. Hence the wheels were painted blue, with zinc-plated rims. If Chrysler Corporation cannot get the facts straight, we should not be hard on fellow restorers who get things wrong Paul Smithblaatann@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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