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I have another to add to the evr growing list. It s a documentary called "Briars In The Cotton Patch". It deals with the "Koinonia Farm" in Americus Geogia, from its formatio in 1942 thru today. The flm made its debut in Americus on 5/30 and will be presented again on 6/14 at the Atlanta Film Festival. I had the honor of supplying the cars for some of the scenes in the film, including The "DUKE" and chris 51.

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Awright, which one of youns sandbagged the TV show "Unsolved Mysteries"?

It is on the tube even as I'm typing this and the story is about a boy who disappeared when he was 9. His name is Christopher Sherwood. His Dad's name was Tex. In the re-enactment Tex is driving a 1951 Packard four-door painted silver and black. Caused me to bolt upright in my chair and damn near spilt my milk. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Then it shows Christopher heading to school the morning he disappeared. In the background you can see his Dad's 51 Packard. It is parked behind a 56 Patrician or Four Hundred! The next scene is his sister (I think) standing on a corner and parked there is a 1955 Four Hundred! I am going to see if they repeat this clip tonight and if so I will take notes on color schemes and models. Now, which one of you guys supplied these vehicles?? <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

YFAM, Randy Berger

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that s wild, if you find out make sure let us know. I have another one to post, "Ghosts of Mississippi" a 56 Patrician in front of the court house steps during the opening sequence showing the trial of Beckwith in the early 60's. It is a turquise and white color scheme.

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i was watching a show call junkyard wars last night, the idea of the show is to turn 2 team loose in a junkyard and have them build a specific item that is functional. yesterday they had to buil cranes able to lift cars from a 30ft drop, about half way through my wife saw a car and stated "honey that one looks like yours" sure enough there is a 52-53 in the yard. it was to quick for me to figure out the model but it had very little trim on the side "200 maybe". at the end of the show they were showing a little bit of next weeks show and the "host" proudly took a pipe and smashed out the passenger headlights :-( by the way this was on the discovery channel at 9:00 eastern

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Albert

If the car you saw was in a background shot, you could be right, but if your referring to the car that Porky drove, the pink convertible with the grunting pig for a hood ornament, if i remember correctly, that was a 50/51 Hudson. I'll try to look for it the next time it is on.

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Tim, there is a 1954 convertible in the movie "Diner". It is light green with a dark green top. It belongs to the guy who slapped Mickey O'Rourke around. I believe there is a 56 Caribbean in one shot just sitting off to the side parked.

YFAM, Randy Berger

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I was referring to the one sitting off to the left side of the screen during a scene switch....I didn't notice the vert but now that I think of it....yeah...thats a good flick.....like me and my friends now...

Tim

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Confirmed... I was finally able to see the movie "Boulevard du Rhum" filmed in 1971 and it shows a 1933 1001 Eight convertible coupe driven by Brigitte Bardot, first by itself and then on a funny car persecution. The movie is not worth much, though.

Victor.

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Saw another one this AM. It's called

'BURN EM UP O'CONNER" A sort of racing whodunit with a great 1939 converible.

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Saw a pretty good film today directed by Clint Eastwood and called Mystic River. Kevin Bacon, Lawrence Fishburn, Sean Penn & Tim Robbins, all appear and play good roles. A fast moving whodunit with great cinematography in the gritty inner city of Boston. A yes a Packard is in this 2003 film. A 1953 maroon colored Packard Caribbean is seen in a parade scene near the close of the film. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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I like to watch for '55's and '56's. I agree Plan 9 has a great action shot of a '55. There is also a glimpse in a parking lot scene in American Graffiti of a '55 or '56. On T.V., I recall the original Blue Knight police drama (NOT the series with George Kennedy) featured a black and white '55 400 that was the bad guy's car. In the final scene the car is being towed away. That's the way I remeber it, anyway. Anyone know if this was a theatrical release? I think it was made-for-TV, but maybe a copy exists somewhere. I'm also looking for a copy of Badlands, which is about the Charles Starkweather crime spree in '58. If it has the correct cars, it will include a black '56 Packard that Starkweather and his girlfriend stole and used to flee the police after their murder binge. This story is also supposed to be the basis for Kalifornia, Natural Born Killers, True Romance and, some say, Wild at Heart. I haven't seen any of these except Wild at Heart, which uses a Thunderbird. The Starkweather Packard is legendary. Might it still exist? I'll report back if they have the right model in the movie. Or maybe somebody knows...

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Re: Starkweather Packard.

Lifetime Channel did a movie about Charles Starkweather called "Terror in the heartland" or somesuch. It replays on that channel occasionally. Onetime when it was on, I popped in a tape and recorded all the scenes with the Packard. Total time was 14 minutes!

They used a 1955 Patrician whereas the real doctor's Packard was a 1956. There are a few high speed chase scenes that are a hoot, with the Pat doing sliding turns, etc. There is one scene that all of us have experienced driving our Packards around town. Charlie & G'friend are stopped at a stoplight in some little town in NB or KS and the local cop rolls up next to them and says something like: "Nice car!" Charlie just pretends like it's his and thanks the cop and slowly drives off. The scene is a little fuller than that, but you get the idea.

Definitely see this movie the next time it's on. You might check Lifetime TV

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I just borrowed a best of Old Cars Weekly book from a friend and it contains about a 30 year old article about the 56 Patrician used in the crime spree. It listed the then owner and location of the car. I'll check and see what I can come up with.

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Thanks Craig and Dave,

Maybe I'm kind of morbid, but I am really fascinated by that car and the "dark side" of the Packard mystique. The '55s and '56s have some menacing aspects. I'll definitely be renting or buying "Badlands" (which has a starring debut by Martin Sheen, costarring Sissy Spacek--and maybe a Packard) and I hope to find and tape that Lifetime show Craig mentioned. That much footage must be a record for a last generation Packard, expecially in action. Maybe I can make some VHS copies if folks are intersted?

A question: Has there ever been a sexier vehicle/star combination from Hollywood than Faye Dunaway and her creamy Packard convertible in Chinatown?? Just wondering...

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Well, I looked for "Murder in the Heartland" at Amazon... don't have it. "Terror in the Heartland" is about a tornado chaser. I also checked Lifetime's movies schedule--not on in the next two months. What's that show doing on Lifetime anyway? Oh, yeah, the romance thing. Anxiously awaiting any more info on THE car.

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Last known owner of Charles Starkweathers car circa 1978: Alvin Vieselmeyer of Gothenberg. Neb. who supposedly owned a body shop there in the mid 70's. The ORIGINAL owners were Mr & mrs C. Ward Lauer of (Lincoln?) Nebraska. Starkweathers girl friends name was Caril Ann Fugate and she was 17 in 1958 and reportedly still in prison as of the mid 1970's. Starkweather went to the electric chair.

Someone with alot of entusiasm about this might try to contact some of the above people and report back to us.

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I guess I fit the description of someone with a lot of enthusiasm. Luckily, there are not a host of Vieselmeyers out there, and an on-line search turned up only one living in Nebraska. I might drop her a line. Talk about enthusiasm, how the heck did you get the name of the last known owner? I don't think Caril Ann or the survivors of the original owners would want to talk about it... The original owners' LAST name was Ward-- C. Lauer Ward did live in Lincoln Nebraska with his wife Clara. I've seen the car referred to as the Ward Packard. The couple and their housekeeper were all victims. I'll try to place a link here to a site that gives more info, for Enquiring Minds. This should take you right to the page on the Wards, go to the next chapter for "the chase".

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/starkweather/finale_7.html?sect=8

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Vieselmeyer was actually the third owner of the car in and about the mid-70's.

The second owner, Blaine Peterson of Gothenburg purchased the car from the Lauer estate after their deaths. Apparently Blains father drove the car back to Gothenburg from Wyoming where the car had made its final stop when Charlie and Caril were captured.

I am interested in the car and its performance and details during the chase but not really interested in the people involved per-se. However, i think after 45 years you could propbably contact any of them involved or related to the crime and probably glean some info from them. Best thing to do is ask as few questions as possible and let them do the talking with a bit of sympathetic awe on your part. Keep us poted on your findings.

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PackardV8,

I'm sending out a few letters and will let you know if I hear anything. According to the Starkweather article linked to my last post, the original owner's last name was Ward, not Lauer. Do you have any info on Lauer? Possibly from Ward's maternal side? You sure have a lot of good details on the car's history. If you click on the "Chase" chapter on the story linked to my last post, the only performance data given is "speeds in excess of 100 mph," but not who was winning when Charlie quit. Apparently, the police were following close enough to shoot out his back window. Check out the pathetic end to the chase. There's certainly nothing admirable about what this fellow (and probably his girlfriend) did, but it is a very interesting piece of Packard lore. My local video store did not haved "Badlands" but I will get it eventually and report back on its automotive accuracy. (After all, that's what this thread is about).

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i have the same article as Dave327 that posted above on 11/17/2003. So i went to cheque it. The article specifies that the "Patrician belonged to Mr & Mrs C Ward Lauer and that the car was driven by Mrs Lauer" Since the incident involved Nebraska residents i doubt that the 'Ward' nor 'Lauer' name refects any maiden names. The habit of using a mothers maiden name as a middle name tends to be a more south-eastern tradition than that which is practiced in the rest of the nation altho i have heard such nameing in other regions.

Quite possibly the entire name is ficticious or deliberatly altered due to the social prominence of the victims???????

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Additional Packards in movies include:

"Back to the Future" mid 1980's starring Michael J Fox has a cream 1948 custom convertible.

"The Great Gatsby" 1974 starring Robert Redford, his love interest drove a white 1926 - 1928 Packard roadster with rear mounted spare. It was a brief scene with the car.

"Lost in Yonkers" early 1990's has a cream 1938 Twelve convertible coupe.

"The Cats Meow" 2003 Movie about Randolph Hearst & a murder on his yacht. Has a brief scene when they are boarding the boat with about a 1927 Packard Six sedan in the background.

"The Adams Family" about 1992, has a couple scenes with a 1931 Dietrich convertible sedan. Dark blue with cream wheels.

Hope this helps

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'In Harms Way" a John Wayne WWII movie has a 41 in a few scenes.Seems like in one they are maneuvering around some bombing while driving.

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