drbs Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I am looking to sell this motor. I do not know anything about it. The motor is froze up. Could someone tell me what a fair price would be? Thank you. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roysboystoys Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 The guys at Ford Barn need to see that. Unusual for sure. FAA approved? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I actually think it started out as a Model T engine, the oil filler tube is bolted on where an A had a filling tube hole cast into the block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I am a buyer at $500. Maybe an industrial usefor up north with air cooling. Needs to be preserved . Happy to PayPal or check. Thanks George Albright,Ocala Fla. cell weekdays 352 843 1624. Email gnalbright@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 George Albright to the rescue. He sure does love offbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Posted a link to this thread on the Aussie A Models Facebook page and received this response: "Look up Pietenpol, they ran A model engines." Next Googled Pietenpol - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pietenpol_Air_Camper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Owls Head Transportation Museum is working on a Pietenpol which I have looked at several times while volunteering there, it’s what makes me think it’s a T engine and not an A. I’m sure the finned Head was made to convert it to air cooled and is the most interesting part of the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chistech Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 They nicknamed that plane the Pete N Paul because is was a two seater. There is a few RC models of the PnP available and they fly great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Happy to make sure the moter is researched and preserved and possibly donated to a museum. I have over two dozen cars donated in museums since 1986. Sincerely George Albright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 The Golden Age Museum in Bechtelsville, Pa has a 32 Pietenpol Air Camper That's the one with the Model A engine. Pietenpol also made a smaller plane, the "Sky Scout" with a Model T engine, which may be what this engine came from. https://www.minnpost.com/mnopedia/2013/10/car-engines-take-flight-pietenpol-air-camper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I agree it is a Model T engine, note that it has been cut in half to allow more air to flow around the center cylinders. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 More than just cut in half, every part of the water jacket was removed and what looks like copper fins were made and screwed to the cylinder walls. Am impressive amount of work done there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Carl Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Sell it to George. He is a good man, and loves machinery like this. I am Cadillac Carl, and recently noted that George supplied two old 1920s Cadillacs with sets of wheels to put them back on the road. And the wheels which were in excellent condition went fast because Generous George was more than fair on his prices. This is an unsolicited testimonial, although I do communicatie with George occasionally. - CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 THANK YOU for the kind words! WOW! AACA rocks.Thanks for the nice words Carl,you made my day. Yes some research needs to be put into this piece,and I'm the guy to do it. Cheers,George Albright gnalbright@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I absolutely agree that it is a highly modified model T Ford engine, and most likely was intended for or used in an airplane. Most likely a small Pietenpol. I don't know how many were built way back when, certainly not many by automotive standards. However apparently more than most people would think. There is also a restored plane (that I believe was flown a couple decades ago!) on display in the model T Museum located in Richmond Indiana. The Museum is the result of the combined efforts of both major national Model T Clubs and their many members that donate time, money, and treasures to a worthy cause. I am not begging for donations, just passing on more information about a little-known area of model T and automotive history. There also is a Pietenpol association with an annual fly-in. Most of the flying planes are model A engine based slightly larger models. But I have read reports in several years of their fly-ins, and usually a couple of the smaller model T based planes also participate. That is an incredible engine! It definitely needs to be preserved and displayed in some good place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Morning Dave. I’d love to hear from you concerning my offer for the motor. Thanks George albright. Gnalbright@gmail.com. Cell weekdays 10-4,3528431624 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbs Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 George, I will call you later this week. Thanks, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Wonderful. Any weekdays 10-4 EST works for me. Looking forward to it. Sincerely George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Dave if u will accept my $500 for the engine I will immediately donate it to the Ford Model T Museum in Richmond Indiana. National Model T Club board member and friend Steve Ellis of Ocala said he would assist in making it happen.Steve said it’s a display piece because there are several design flaws he sees that would cause problems with making it operable.i am available today after 11. Thanks George Albright 3528431624 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbs Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 George, There is another person that is quite interested in this engine also. I will contact you next week. Thank you. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Sounds good. My offer still stands regardless. The museum would be a great place for it. Cheers,George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Its not a Pitenpol engine. Much cruder. Possibly one off. Still needs to be in the Model T Museum in Richmond Indiana,in my opinion. Happy to buy it and donate it straight to the museum from the seller. Cheers,George Albright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I hope George buys it,he saves everything from the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Great guys at the AACA forum! Thanks George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Morning Dave. What is the status of the motor? Thanks George Albright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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