Michael_Blackburn Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 This Is what I found when I removed the pump Its Frozen solid, Fortunately I wanted to buy a brand new one so I'm good.Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Blackburn Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 More pics anyone ever cleaned one of these my book says you Can, I'm Not Sure Probably going to need a new radiator too what do you Think, I don't know if its salvageable. Hose to bottom of radiator is half full as you Can see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I am surprised that the impeller is not rusted all to heck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I shutter to think what your water distribution tube looks like. See the following, https://www.ebay.com/i/182992159071?chn=ps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Blackburn Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Hudsy Wudsy said: I shutter to think what your water distribution tube looks like. See the following, https://www.ebay.com/i/182992159071?chn=ps I Might Need that When I rebuild Hugh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capngrog Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Hudsy Wudsy said: I shutter to think what your water distribution tube looks like. See the following, https://www.ebay.com/i/182992159071?chn=ps Is that the water distribution tube shown at the left side of the last two photos? If it is, it looks to be really clogged. Cheers, Grog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermontboy Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Showing my age but aren't there any places that will hot tank the block. Back in the late 50's and early 60's (long before the EPA had been thought of) we took the really gnarly stuff (wire wheels with 10 -12 coats of brush enamel, etc) to the local chrome shop. They would wait until their dunk tank got pretty bad and then clean all the junk people had brought in. Who knows what they did with the stuff but I think I know - the EPA would shudder. On the other hand it was Rochester , NY and Kodak was doing it's own good job of disposing of all sorts of things ........... Anyway - the block needs to be tanked = you are not going to scrape all that out of it without the patience of Job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 3 hours ago, capngrog said: Is that the water distribution tube shown at the left side of the last two photos? If it is, it looks to be really clogged. Cheers, Grog Yes....in the last photo on the left side is the tube and it will have to be removed and replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 3 hours ago, vermontboy said: Showing my age but aren't there any places that will hot tank the block. Back in the late 50's and early 60's (long before the EPA had been thought of) we took the really gnarly stuff (wire wheels with 10 -12 coats of brush enamel, etc) to the local chrome shop. They would wait until their dunk tank got pretty bad and then clean all the junk people had brought in. Who knows what they did with the stuff but I think I know - the EPA would shudder. On the other hand it was Rochester , NY and Kodak was doing it's own good job of disposing of all sorts of things ........... Anyway - the block needs to be tanked = you are not going to scrape all that out of it without the patience of Job. Talk about showing one's age -- you spelled "shudder" correctly, while I spelled it "shutter". More and more these days, I find my once fairly good spelling ability letting me down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capngrog Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 9 hours ago, Hudsy Wudsy said: Talk about showing one's age -- you spelled "shudder" correctly, while I spelled it "shutter". More and more these days, I find my once fairly good spelling ability letting me down. Well, I can certainly relate to the "old age" phenomenon; however, with all of the new "hand-holding" technology which is intended to help keep us from messin' up, we have become too reliant on such technology as "spellcheck" etc. I don't know about everyone else, but I don't proof read as carefully as I used to. Both "shutter" and "shudder" are legitimate words and even sound the same, but have different meanings (homonyms/homophones?) Until the advent of Artificial Intelligence, I'm thinkin' that our computers will continue to be flummoxed by the English language. Meanwhile, eye think I'll just steel up the stares to my office sweet to make sore my stationery is stationary and is their for my garage sail. Cheers, Grog 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 2 hours ago, capngrog said: Both "shutter" and "shudder" are legitimate words Scrape and scrap are pretty close as well. What's the Dodge look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleetwood Meadow Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Based on the looks of the distribution tube it is probably rusted through so that would possibly need to be replaced. I’m not sure if the engine runs for any length of time but in my ‘51 Meadowbrook I powerwashed as much of the rust out of the block as I could, replaced the water pump, and flushed the radiator forward and backwards then put water in the radiator and a tub of wood bleach. There’s a lot of discussion about wood bleach on here. My car constantly overheated so I put the bleach in and ran the car for about 5 hours total over the next couple of days. Then I flushed it and repeated the problem. Now my car doesn’t overheat. I’m not sure about the mechanics of the wood bleach and correct me if I’m wrong but it seems to eat the rust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Blackburn Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 hey guys How do you remove the water jacket on my flat 6 im going to replace it but not sure how to remove it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Michael_Blackburn said: hey guys How do you remove the water jacket on my flat 6 im going to replace it but not sure how to remove it ? FYI, before you catch a lot of grief, it's a flat HEAD six. Corvairs, Subarus and Porsches have flat sixes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Michael, Carl is right. Might help if you specify what engine you are talking about. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael_Blackburn said: hey guys How do you remove the water jacket on my flat 6 im going to replace it but not sure how to remove it ? If you mean to say the water distribution tube on the passenger side of the engine, you will have to make a hooked wire and shove it in and pull the tube out. It will hook to the holes in it and with MUCH effort, it may come out. They are famous for breaking up into smaller pieces. Edited June 17, 2018 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (Sigh) Assuming that poor thing sat long enough to rust up like that, you may be looking at the tip of the iceberg---brace yourself before pulling the head and pan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Blackburn Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 3 hours ago, keiser31 said: If you mean to say the water distribution tube on the passenger side of the engine, you will have to make a hooked wire and shove it in and pull the tube out. It will hook to the holes in it and with MUCH effort, it may come out. They are famous for breaking up into smaller pieces. thank you never thought of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Blackburn Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bud Tierney said: (Sigh) Assuming that poor thing sat long enough to rust up like that, you may be looking at the tip of the iceberg---brace yourself before pulling the head and pan... I Got A complete Engine rebuild kit all will work out. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Blackburn Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 5 hours ago, CarlLaFong said: FYI, before you catch a lot of grief, it's a flat HEAD six. Corvairs, Subarus and Porsches have flat sixes Hey Carllafong I didn't know there was a difference good feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, CarlLaFong said: FYI, before you catch a lot of grief, it's a flat HEAD six. Corvairs, Subarus and Porsches have flat sixes Actually, it is technically referred to as an "L" head 6. See diagram.... Edited June 17, 2018 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Blackburn Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 minute ago, keiser31 said: Actually, it is technically referred to as an "L" head 6. See diagram.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Blackburn Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 Cool I see why you call it that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I say potayto, she says potahto... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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