kalve Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Have a guy wanting to trade me a 1952 Plymouth Suburban for my 1970 AMC Rebel SST Wagon. Was wanting to know on the Plymouth were can I get the wiring upgrade to make it a 12 Volt system & is it hard to change over? What alternator would fit the car? After I upgrade the wiring plan to upgrade from generator to alternator. For right now that would be about it would need to do new plugs & wires & distributor etc.. was told car cam from Florida & has about 60K on it & has been sitting for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) Really no need to change to `12 volt. Good battery and correct 6 volt cables will allow the car to start well. i had my generator rebuilt and have had no problems keeping the battery charged but 6 volt alternators are available as well if you want one. Wiring kits are available from several places if needed. I still have the original wiring on my 52 and have had no problems. I suggest going here for more and better information: http://p15-d24.com/page/index.html Edited May 28, 2018 by plymouthcranbrook (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 Were can you get 6 volt alternators at? Thought they were all 12 volt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Search Ebay for 6 volt pos ground alternators. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=6+volt+positive+ground+alternator&_sacat=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 How high amp can I go 60 amp or can I go 100 amp on the car with all factory setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I doubt there would be any reason to go more than 60 amps. I put a 60 on my 52 and it worked great. I didn't have a radio, but did have an over drive. The alternator I used made a very slight whine, Not enough to be any bother, but that is typical to alternators. You hear them on most cars that have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 ok sounds good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) planning to buy a new alternator for it & see what I need to do to get it running its tight needs freed up some. An need to find out what bolts & springs I need for the hood. The hood is just laying on the car & I am missing all hardware needed to reattach the hood. I traded cars last week Plymouth dont look to bad it needs driver inner & outer rockers & driver front floorpan & both door glasses & fix big dent in roof & reattach hood & change both rear tires. Car aint in bad shape for the age its been sitting a long time sticker on car says 1979/1980 NC Edited June 6, 2018 by kalve (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reg Evans Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 "planning to buy a new alternator for it & see what I need to do to get it running its tight needs freed up some. An need to find out what bolts & springs I need for the hood. The hood is just laying on the car & I am missing all hardware needed to reattach the hood. " I might have all that hood hardware in my bone yard. PM me if interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 That is before & after shots put some color on it real fast over the weekend in between it raining. It still needs the over spray cleaned up an some other stuff but not bad for $50 Rustoleum paint & primer somebody painted it light blue at some point this is Aqua Blue. Going to have it painted right later on just right now wanted to sand all the surface rust off an protect that body & now work on getting it running & then do the body work on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) For future reference masking tape and newspaper is a whole lot easier and cheaper than the aggrevation of trying to get that paint off the belt line molding and glass. I've also used a for sale sign as a block while I'm spraying to cut in close to areas to avoid overspray. Works pretty well. Never tried it on a car but I did it on other non crucial things. Edited June 6, 2018 by auburnseeker (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 Was putting a rush on it it was raining off an on the weekend an I was doing it when it was not raining. Was just putting paint on it as fast as I could when I got done it poured it down. It had surface rust all over it an lots of places no paint just bare metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I wasn't trying to get down on you for the paint job, just the work you created for yourself trying to clean the paint off the trim. If you don't wait too long, solvent like lacquer thinner might take it off. I've just been there with trying to get paint off moldings and it can be really frustrating. What you want the paint to stay on usually doesn't and what you try to get it off from, never seems to come loose. Murphy's law I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 For parts that you don't get from Reg Evans, try here....https://www.wildcatmopars.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 ok will check them out & yea weekend is going to be clean up the over spray & change both rear tires & see if I can get it running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 Does anybody know what you need to do to change the ignition switch out on a 1952 Plymouth Suburban? I need to change it out the guy I got it from lost the keys & I got a new one & need to put it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I think the chrome collar unscrews and the switch comes out through the rear of the dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 ok will check thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c49er Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 There is a small capped hole directly under the IGN switch on the lower dash. A phillip's head screw holds the IGN switch in place. Remove the phillip screw.... pull the switch rearward out of the dash about two inches..but first remove the firewall rubber grommet that locks the armored cable to the firewall....then pull armored cable and switch through firewall and into the the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 ok will see if that works thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 It says this cars came with 15" wheels it has 14" on it now. Looking to go back to 15". What wheels will fit this car like Buick Ford etc.. ? Like to find a nice chrome set of wheels for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) Most Chrysler product wheels will fit unless it has that pesky lug pattern location pin on the drum. Edited June 21, 2018 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 ok what about wheels from a Ford GM etc.. will any of those fit & if so what years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 You can put a Mopar wheel on a Ford, But you can't put a Ford wheel on a Mopar. The center hole is a bit smaller on the Ford wheels. We are talking oem wheels here. The aftermarket wheels will usually fit both. You have what they call a 5 on 4 1/2" bolt pattern. (five bolts on a four and one half inch diameter circle) GM cars mostly have a 5 on 4 3/4" bolt circle and will not fit any Ford or Mopar. Don't forget that these early Plymouth wheel lugs have left handed threads on the left side of the car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 23 minutes ago, JACK M said: You can put a Mopar wheel on a Ford, But you can't put a Ford wheel on a Mopar. The center hole is a bit smaller on the Ford wheels. We are talking oem wheels here. Yes, the Ford hub is smaller. I remember long ago grinding out the centers on some 14x7 Mustang wheels to get them on Mopar hubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 When I was much younger and already knew everything I drove a set of Ford wheel on my old Dodge with a strong impact wrench. They were not on there true and it drove terrible. I had a he** of a time getting them off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 ok yea looking to put new tires on rear an went to Coker tires an found the factory size for the 52 Plymouth is 205/75 R15 there are 14" on there now. Was wondering what wheels will fit it OEM & aftermarket an put some chrome 15" wheels on it an put 4 new tires on it. An on the wheels lugs on this car do you have to have left handed thread for left side & right handed tread for right side? Will locking lug nuts fit these cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, kalve said: ok yea looking to put new tires on rear an went to Coker tires an found the factory size for the 52 Plymouth is 205/75 R15 there are 14" on there now. Was wondering what wheels will fit it OEM & aftermarket an put some chrome 15" wheels on it an put 4 new tires on it. An on the wheels lugs on this car do you have to have left handed thread for left side & right handed tread for right side? Will locking lug nuts fit these cars? You can always change the left side studs to right-hand threaded studs, but it's a giant pain it the butt and not necessary. Yes, locking lug nuts will work. They make left-hand threaded locking lug nuts, too. I am pretty sure a guy in a wheel shop can fix you up with the correct size wheels in the style you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) You may want to go here and ask questions about the wheels. I am sure someone on this site has changed them out on a '52 Plymouth before....https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/forums/the-hokey-ass-message-board.5/ Edited June 21, 2018 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I suspect that if you keep your eyes on your local Craigs List you could score some chromies for that. These days wheels come with multiple bolt patterns. Just make sire that there is a 5 on 4 1/2 pattern and that the center hole is the right size or to big. Same with tires, a caring dealer should be able to get you a similar size and save you some money. They could even sell you some wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Need to know were the Vin # is on this car. I need a officer to verify the Vin on the title & the car were it is a out of state title & its out of the system. There are numbers on drivers door post & engine block & body number on fire wall & number on frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Driver's side door post or 'A' pillar is the serial number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) Just to clarify for the owner and the folks on this site....the car is a 1951 Plymouth. The 1952 hood emblem is slightly different. The 1952 emblem.... Edited June 23, 2018 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
61polara Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 kalve, You need to slow down or it will cost you a lot of money. Get the clear title first before you spend another dollar on this car. It's a great car to start with, but without a title it's a parts car. Get it running first. A 6v system will start the car. Get the engine free and turning and running before you think of buying tires. If your engine is bad and has to be rebuilt and the cost is outside you budget, why do you want to spend dollars on a 6v alternator and new tires. Just trying to get you to set some priorities, because I've been there and done that. Good luck with your car. Consider joining the AACA Chapter in Huntington. There are great guys there who can offer you guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalve Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 yea I know working on getting title taken care of & going to contact previous owners an get more info on car. As of right now just have under $300 in the car. An going to get tires & glass done to it were I live in the city so nobody says anything about it. The car I know will need radiator & cooling fan stuck & hard to tell what all it will need to get it running. The sticker on the windshield said 79/80 so its been off the road for a long time & looks like just sitting was told it was sitting in a building. Just taking it one step at a time first thing is title then get door glass replaced then wheels & tires so I can move it & then work on getting it running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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