George Albright Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Dear AACA Family: I own this Pop Dreyer built circa 1930-34 sprint race car and would like to display a tubular front axle with it,like it originally has here. The first two photos taken in the early 30s with the last photo taken in the late 40s. Don Moore ordered the car new,and drove it until the early 1950s. Has Ford Front axle since WWII. I don't know if this original front axle is from a Franklin,Chrysler,or sourced elsewhere. I only want an exact copy. First,can anyone absolutely ID the make of the front axle? Second,does anyone know where I can buy one? Thanks! George Albright, Ocala,Fla. email gnalbright@gmail.com cell 352 843 1624 weekdays 10-4 EST best Dreyer Race Car Sprint Car #1 3 Attachments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Looks like a 1929 Chrysler front axle. The third photo looks to be a different car or at least revised from the first two photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Third photo is same car with different wheels,different front axle,and Ford straight 6 installed around WWII. I have a friend who believes its a 25,26,27 Chrysler axle. Any more thoughts? thanks,george Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 It could definitely be a Chrysler Model B or G axle with the brakes removed. 1924 - 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46 woodie Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Very cool George, any more pictures of the car as it is now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Will post more photos of the car in a few. Can anyone post a photo of a 1924-27 Chrysler chassis or front axle on a car,so we can compare? Thanks,George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 I think we are getting warmer. Here is a 1924 press photo of a new Chrysler. Axles appear identical! If so what years are identical to the 1924 models? Thanks,George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Here is a bowed Chrysler axle....http://theoldmotor.com/?p=108416 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Here is the photo of the axle Keiser31 referred me to. Sure looks close! Anyone know of who might have an early Chrysler chassis or front axle for sale? Thanks AACA,you rock! George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Try Jay Astheimer.... astheime@ptd.net. Cell 610-463-3631 I'll be there from Tuesday till Friday noon. Jay Astheimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Car in present condition shown at 2010 Amelia Island Concourse. My lovely wife Tammy driving! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Thanks Will send Jay an email now! Geo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 The part number for the axle is the same for all the Model B and G cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Hi Everyone. Jay has an axle for me!! THANKS AACA for getting me ID'ed and fixed up in hours!! Cheers,George 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 It is really nice when people come back with the resolution of their problem and a Thank You. Kudos to George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viv w Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Definitely a Chrysler front axle even down to the double bolts thru the tierod ends. Probably either B or G series 70. Car looks like it has Buffalo wire wheels on the rear and it may have had the same wheels on the front originally. May I ask if they are type 4 or type 5, this should be marked on the side of the centre hub caps, if you unscrew a rear one. My G70 has 20 inch type HC4 buffalo wire wheels which were a rare option. I stand to be corrected but I believe the 80 series imperials had type 5 Buffalo wheels. This could help to ID whether the axle was from a 70 or 80 series car. Viv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Hi Viv Thanks for the nice email. I will be at my storage where the car is stored next week.I am certain that is a Model 70 axle and the Buffalos are 4s. A Model 80 is very rare,as you well know. Will try to get you an answer next week. Thanks! George Albright gnalbright@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 hours ago, viv w said: Definitely a Chrysler front axle even down to the double bolts thru the tierod ends. Probably either B or G series 70. Car looks like it has Buffalo wire wheels on the rear and it may have had the same wheels on the front originally. May I ask if they are type 4 or type 5, this should be marked on the side of the centre hub caps, if you unscrew a rear one. My G70 has 20 inch type HC4 buffalo wire wheels which were a rare option. I stand to be corrected but I believe the 80 series imperials had type 5 Buffalo wheels. This could help to ID whether the axle was from a 70 or 80 series car. Viv. As far as I know 80 series cars used Buffalo B5 wheels. The type where the removal tool latches into a recess in the cap and lifts the centre of the cap to unlock it. { the newest type of Buffalo center lock wheels} Greg in Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I just checked on Google, it looks like the first year or two used the pin drive wheels with the smaller diameter caps and the later Imperial 80's used B5'S Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 RELATED QUESTION: Now that we know it is a Chrysler tube axle ( I had one I sold a few months ago) were there different sizes depending on what model used them? Did later ones have normal internal expanding brakes? These are stock Chrysler questions, not race car use questions. Thanks! Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46 woodie Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I can see that baby taking laps at the Fall, HERSHEY, Race Car Conditioning Run now! I would love to find a vehicle like that. What are your planning to do with the car? The early pictures look like they were so eager to get on the track, that they didn't even paint the car. I would guess at some time they "tweaked" the front axle and an early Ford axle was chosen. Do you have any race history on the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viv w Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1937hd45, the parts book shows the model B and G series cars used the same front axle, but the series 80 has a different part number and is probably a stronger axle. One must never assume that early Chrysler parts are interchangeable from one model to another. Chrysler had a habit of changing parts in the middle of production years. The parts book shows virtually every model's axle has a different part number and the part numbers again can be different for export or RHD cars. I have learnt the hard way, that parts may look the same but they can differ in sizes. I stand to be corrected, but I think Chrysler used external contracting brakes until 1928 and then changed to internal expanding brakes in 1929 Viv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Quote 4 hours ago, viv w said: 1937hd45, the parts book shows the model B and G series cars used the same front axle, but the series 80 has a different part number and is probably a stronger axle. One must never assume that early Chrysler parts are interchangeable from one model to another. I stand to be corrected, but I think Chrysler used external contracting brakes until 1928 and then changed to internal expanding brakes in 1929 Viv. Thanks Viv! I'd like to find a 1929 or later Chrysler tube axle with the later internal expanding brakes. The one I sold a few months ago didn't have the spindles, but was nicely modified for Ford spring perches. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Albright Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Thanks to all of u guys that made this happen!!! Sincerely George Albright 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viv w Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Not sure if Chrysler still used a tube type front axle after 1927, anyone know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, viv w said: Not sure if Chrysler still used a tube type front axle after 1927, anyone know ? 1929 Chrysler Model 75. Edited April 22, 2018 by keiser31 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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