Mars Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1930 cf 4dr, emergency brake needs whatever peice attaches to the bottom of the catch/release rod. Would love to have it work. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) I will look and see what I have in my garage. Is it the cog at the bottom of the brake handle? Got a photo of the part it attaches to? Edited February 23, 2018 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I have looked through my stuff and cannot find the brake handle I had. I probably sold it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Harmatuk Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) I bought a 30 Desoto K model ??, transmission, from Wheelmang about 2 weeks ago. Just looked. Nothing like that on the transmission. I didn't get the brake handle but what I did get is not the same. Bill H Edited February 28, 2018 by Bill Harmatuk (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) On 23/02/2018 at 11:45 AM, Mars said: Would love to have it work. These are photos of my spare DC gearbox with hand brake ratchet. In the first one you can see the tang is disengaged - the release button is pressed down. I believe the DC and CF are the same. My earlier post contributed nothing so I have deleted it. This should be an easy thing to make. 1/8" plate or perhaps a bit more. Make a sort of L shape, drill the two holes, turn over the short leg of the L then rivet to the hand brake lever with the rod through the second hole. The distance between the two holes is enough to make the push rod parallel to the lower part of the brake lever edge - see 5th photo. This is my freehand sketch, not to scale; it is pretty coarse but you get the idea. Edited March 4, 2018 by Spinneyhill (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehandleman Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I THOUGHT THE K WAS A SIX CYL AND THE CF WAS A EIGHT IN 30? DIFFERENT TRANNY'S DIFFERENT E-BRAKES ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelmang Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I have an E brake handle but am not sure if it is from the 29 Desoto or the 27 DB. Will look a little later and see if the piece you are looking for is attached to the handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelmang Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I found the handle but it is not like yours. Sorry and good luck on the search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Mars Spineyhill is correct DC and CF are the same. I have one of each. Has he answered your question or are you still looking for answers, do you need parts? If so give Dodge Vintage City a try, they had a DC in the wrecking yard a few years ago. If that fails let me know and I will reach out to my contacts. Also what CF8 do you have! We have a 1930 DeLuxe Sedan. Cheers Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, Mars said: I think if I can keep the gizmo from sliding off to the side it might work Can you take another picture of yours from the front, on a similar angle to this one of mine: I am wondering what this piece is on yours: The bent rod should go through the engaging piece as you can see above. Has the bent rod pin popped out? On my sketch, the bit sticking out on the left in the lower dwg is bent over to 90o to make the tang that engages in the ratchet. The bent rod above the arrow just above goes through the hole to the right of it (below it in place). Edited March 19, 2018 by Spinneyhill (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 It's not much different than yours. Doesn't look like it in the pic but it's similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 20/03/2018 at 12:03 PM, Mars said: It's not much different than yours. Doesn't look like it in the pic but it's similar How about a picture from the front so we can see what has happened to the ratchet piece that the bent rod should go through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank29u Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) Mars, Here is the setup on my "29U Plymouth which is a lot like Spinnethill's. The side you see is away from the transmission. Good luck. frank Edited March 23, 2018 by frank29u correct orientation (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spinneyhill Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, Mars said: Here is a pic of driver side of transmission It would be useful if you post a picture of the hand brake ratchet mechanism from the front so we can see the status of the locking tang and the bent rod it fits onto. Then maybe we can help. You need to help us help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Pics of my car 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 More pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 It looks like the locking tang is broken between the lever and the actuating rod. The yellow arrow is perhaps pointing to the broken end and this piece is hanging upside down. The red arrow is perhaps pointing to the other broken end, hanging down, having rotated on its pin (green arrow). The shadow makes it a bit tricky... If the locking tang (yellow arrow) is upside down, the locking tang itself will be below the bent rod as it is shown in the photo. It won't work this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 More pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 More pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank29u Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Mars, I think Spineyhill has it. Have you tried to disassemble? That may tell you what's up. good luck, frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Yep, your locking tang is hanging upside down, possibly broken between the mounting pin (see DC-8Daves' last photo) and the locking tang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Yes, now where can I get that tang thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Make one. It is what, 1/8" steel? my crude sketch above is a starting point, drill the holes and bend the tang, paint or plate or ? and attach to handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Could you take a picture from the end so I can see that profile? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mars said: Could you take a picture from the end so I can see that profile? Thanks See the second photo in my post #7 on page 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 On 30/03/2018 at 12:18 PM, Mars said: Could you take a picture from the end so I can see that profile? Thanks How did you get on with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Haven't gone further as yet. Been working on new windsheild. Still plan on doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 E brake project 30 cf. getting back to it. I think I've figured out what I need to make, The tang piece is riveted to the brake handle I believe. So I think I need to remove the handle to remove the broken piece and install a new one. I've taken the cotter pins out of the rod that connects it to the band assembly.so it's free that way, pivoting on the large pin up higher. How is the handle attached at that pivot point? Does any of this make sense? I hope so. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 56 minutes ago, Mars said: How is the handle attached at that pivot point? Hmmm. Just from your pictures, it looks like it is swaged onto that pin which is part of the top of the gear box. I'll go out and look soon and come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 30 cf, can anyone tell me how to remove the e brake handle from the transmission. I need to the tang that catches the teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArticiferTom Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Here a pic of another handle from forums here . My spring on top , this appears bottom . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 I have no such spring. Mine appears to be a rivet head, thus why I need to remove the handle itself to replace the tang. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 How does the handle come off this type of fastener? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Not sure, but there might be a retainer or clip for that big rivet on the inside of the transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 That sounds tricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Mars said: That sounds tricky Yeah....you may want to wait for other's suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 I'm thinking if I grind the head off the rivet that holds the broken price of the tang, I can remove it,, make a new one and then reattach it somehow. It's about my only choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 At last, the infamous e brake tang thingy. Removed both prices and glued them together to see just what I need to make . Shouldn't be too tough. Reattaching a small challenge . Can't wait for it to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Have you looked at it from above? It is pretty clear you need to remove the floor board then clean up around the brake handle and gearbox top to spotless condition. Then you can remove the top of the gearbox and remove the pin holding the handbrake handle. If you look at the mounting in the gearbox you will see a depression: I bet that is a locking pin. How to remove it will become clear when you have the top off the gearbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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