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I must say that I do like to keep my Reatta (and Riviera) factory correct.  I like to get it judged, but that does not mean I don't drive it.  Although I admit it gets stored from Nov to Apr, I do take it to weekly cruise-ins and car shows during Spring/Summer/Fall.  I try to drive it to either a BCA National or Regional meet yearly as long as meets are east of the Mississippi River.  It's a BCA Gold award winner and currently has 106K+ miles.  I am adamant that my Buicks' are meant to be driven. 

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mine would be factory correct if i reinstalled the cassette player,[doesn't work]took the trailer hitch off,removed the 93 trans cooler[would look factory if i used all the riv parts], and put the awful factory wheels back on.plus things like hose clamps.oh and reinstalled the correct year radio module.

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4 hours ago, DShip said:

I am adamant that my Buicks' are meant to be driven. 

Good for you! I agree with that. It's good to know the award winners are also getting driven. I don't know much about Reattas that are judged so my off the cuff assessment of how that group of owners use their cars might have been incorrect.  I apologize to you guys for making some incorrect assumptions.

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1 hour ago, handmedownreatta said:

mine would be factory correct if i reinstalled the cassette player,[doesn't work]took the trailer hitch off,removed the 93 trans cooler[would look factory if i used all the riv parts], and put the awful factory wheels back on.plus things like hose clamps.oh and reinstalled the correct year radio module.

 

I think I could put my car back to a factory correct condition without much problem. I still have the factory wheels and a trunk lid to replace the one I drilled holes in to mount the spoiler. The only cutting I've done that might be hard to put  back to factory spec is I shorted the exhaust pipes to allow me to install chrome exhaust tips that come straight out instead of turning down. I could probably find some used factory pipes to have welded on the muffler if needed. I doubt I will ever. I like the way it looks from the rear. :)

 

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46 minutes ago, Ronnie said:

 

I think I could put my car back to a factory correct condition without much problem. I still have the factory wheels and a trunk lid to replace the one I drilled holes in to mount the spoiler. The only cutting I've done that might be hard to put  back to factory spec is I shorted the exhaust pipes to allow me to install chrome exhaust tips that come straight out instead of turning down. I could probably find some used factory pipes to have welded on the muffler if needed. I doubt I will ever. I like the way it looks from the rear. :)

 

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i forgot id also need a factory muffler and a new trunk lid.

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At 280,000 miles on the Red I'm still running the original exhaust. Pretty good I would think...

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Dave the fact that it's still running good at 280000 is pretty darn good and it's still a pretty darn good looking car too!

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The Red was on the second tranny when I bought it but as you know this spring it was "updated" with another tranny and rebuilt engine.

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2 hours ago, Ronnie said:

I like the way it looks from the rear. :)

 

 

 

I guess this would be the only time we could look at a rear without our wives getting upset ... Sorry I just had to I couldn't help myself :lol:

It is a pretty good looking rear by the way !

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Ronnie, pretty well echo your sentiments above. Particularly the "uninitiated" who bought a cheap Reatta because it was cheap, and caught their eye. Many such owners have been burned by the pile on in costs and complications that arose after their purchase. These cars are the ones that have been a source of parts for many of us when the discouraged (and fiscally dinged owners) finally threw in the towel and just wanted to get a few hundred bucks out of what turned out to be  a bad decision.

 

We used to see a fair number of new, idealistic owners crop up on here having bought a beater because it was inexpensive and ran well enough to get it home. Not so much in the past two years or so, as many such cars have now been culled permanently.

 

I take no pleasure in saying so, but I have had a hand In dismantling 5 Reattae now, and only one of them was anywhere remotely close to a condition that may have merited repair or restoration. The others  (two of which Dave and I parted at his place and he can attest to) were rusted heaps with serious mechanical, electrical and safety issues to say nothing of their sorry cosmetic condition. Nobody was bringing these cars back, and very few were interested in even buying them for parts.

 

I lucked out and got the three I did myself cheap, and barring that they would have been scrapped by a yard with most good parts still on them. I type all this to point out that those of us who like to drive a Reatta would be wise to stockpile some parts NOW. The window of opportunity is rapidy closing on finding  parts cars at a reasonable price, as the largest percentage of beaters destined for parting out already have been, I think. Really, the sweet spot was about 3-4 years ago by my perception  as these days there are many fewer that show up on Craigslist cheap.

 

The limited number that are seen on CL now tend to be fairly decent mid-to high mileage cars with a few minor issues. I see far fewer $300 Reattas available presently  because so many in that class have already been taken out of circulation. Being comitted to maintaining multiple Reattas means I need to plan ahead,  and I have an enormous stock of things from electrical to glass to body to interior parts. It helps that I have concentrated on 88 ad 91 models only so I can focus my parts stock on those two years. 

 

In any case, anyone wanting to stay in a nice Reatta for the long term should be aware the availability of parts will become an issue (and already is in some respects) and try to budget funds and space to store things that are likely to be needed to keep the car roadworthy at a minimum. Cosmetic parts like hood emblems, trim pieces, side mirrors and vent windows which are easy to damage plus some interior component plastics that tend to break with age and sun exposure should be picked up now while they are still fairy easy to source. Some of these items may not be critical to keeping the vehicle running, but if you want a car you can take pride in, they do matter.

 

While mechanical parts are less an issue, they too are at a point where the last new vehicles to use some of the powertrain parts common to the Reatta were made in the late 90's. Aftermarket support for much of this stuff will go away in the next 10 years I imagine as there simply won't be demand for it on a scale to justify its ongoing production.

 

  One needs to consider all this for the future of these cars, if they are to have one. There will be no aftermarket reproduction parts - save for a handful of small projects - like the convertible visor clips - initiated by dedicated owners - as there is not a profitable (enough) market for such an undertaking. These cars will not have the following of a 34 Ford coupe or 57 Chevy, so we will never have the luxury of ordering new body panels and the like out of a catalog. Due to their complexity in the electronics,  those will present a big challenge as well. Now is the time to plan for the future if you want a a Reatta  to be part of it.

 

KDirk 

 

 

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I agree wholeheartedly with Kevin's statements about the availability of the "beater" Reatta and have no problem with parting them out as I find them. I did have a bit of guilt when I found that real nice 1990 Red/Tan in the West Bend salvage yard. That car was nicer then some of the cars I saw being driven by others. Same with that 1989 White/Burgandy in Oshkosh.

  I also would like to say that I have been accused more then once of trying to retire with the prices I charge for parts. I don't get mad at those stements I really think they are funny as I try to help anyone I can with parts and I struggle with "Do I really want to sell this part and then go looking for a replacement for my inventory?" So before I give a guy a price I check around to see what the price is from my sources. If I can still get the part relatively cheap, so is my price. If not I charge more and that guy can either buy it or go look around.

 So here is my plan for my 3 Reattas;

The year I lose free storage is the year the Black gets parted out. It's got 300,000 miles on it and is worth more in parts then I could ever get for it as a complete car. I just won't pay for storage. Then the Red is up for year round driving. I enjoy driving it, so while it will bother me to drive it in the winter that is just the way it will be. And as it has not seen any winters I hope to get 10-15 more years out of it. I'm 61 and that will be just about right. The 'vert will be the "Keeper" car. And being a 'vert it should hold it's value and probably be the one my kids would want.

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Kevin,  I agree with every  point you made about the importance of having a supply of good used parts.  As I alluded to in my previous post, we need to help each other as much as possible to keep Reattas on the road. We do a pretty good job of doing that now here on the forum but we could do better at bringing together those who need parts, and the vendors and individuals who have a parts for sale.

 

I'm guilty of not doing as much as I could when someone requests a part here on the forum. One reason is if I know they can get the part they need from my Reatta (Amazon) Store I feel like I'm being too commercial by trying to push the Reatta Store. It's not a commercial store but rather a listing of Reatta parts that Amazon has for sale at reasonable prices but that doesn't change the way I feel about promoting it here on the forum.   Another reason is if I recommend a vendor who is in business to sell used parts, then I feel I'm showing favoritism between vendors.   Also I don't recommend individuals who I know have the parts because I don't know if they want to sell the part. The end result is the person needing the part has a hard time finding the part because I don't speak up. I suspect there are many members of this forum in the same position. I (we) need to find a way around feeling this way. If we could it would benifit both those trying to find parts and those wanting to sell them. If we can make it easier for new Reatta owners to find parts they need they are more likely to keep their cars on the road and out of the scrap yards. If we can help vendors sell more parts it will give them an incentive to keep a good supply of the parts on hand that we need.   Lets all start speaking up to help people find the parts and knowledge they need, especially when it's a new member of the forum who is looking for parts. They need our help the most.

 

EDIT: I should add that I get emails almost daily asking me if the Reatta Store have parts that I know are no longer available new. In that case I direct them to used parts vendors that should have the part they need, including Barney and some of the others that I don't consider to be "a business". That way they eventually get the part they need.

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22 minutes ago, DAVES89 said:

I also would like to say that I have been accused more then once of trying to retire with the prices I charge for parts. I don't get mad at those stements I really think they are funny as I try to help anyone I can with parts and I struggle with "Do I really want to sell this part and then go looking for a replacement for my inventory?" So before I give a guy a price I check around to see what the price is from my sources. If I can still get the part relatively cheap, so is my price. If not I charge more and that guy can either buy it or go look around.

Dave I don't think a buyer could ask for more. Every time I have saw you post a price for a part on the forum I've considered it to be reasonable. Some people think because they bought a cheap car that they should be able to get cheap parts. That's not always the case. I have a friend in the auto parts business that has a sign hanging behind his counter that says, "Driving a cheap car is not always cheap!". That sign hit home for me years ago when I needed an alternator for my '78 Toyota pickup truck. At that time they didn't offer a rebuilt alternator for it or parts to rebuild it. I had to go to the dealer to get one and the price knocked me off my feet.

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I don't sell a lot of parts, but periodically  someone will contact me looking for something. I don't mind helping where I can, but I don't make a big show of being a parts vendor either. If anyone has parts needs, feel free to drop me a line and if I can help I certainly will. I'm sitting on a lot of stuff that is large and cumbersome to store and wouldn't mind selling some as I have more than my own needs dictate.

 

I have spare glass, door shells, some interior door panels and pillar/quarter trim panels, front and rear bumpers and facia, tail lamp assemblies, harness sections, headlamp assemblies,  couple of trunk lids, lots of oddball stuff. Have lots of modules and decent supply of spare emblems (hood, door, horn button). I have 88-90 style center caps (some decent, some rough) and going forward will probably have some 88-90 brake leads to sell as I get time to repair them properly. Also have seat control, headlamp and washer (88/89 style) switches. Have some spare coupe door weather stripping and steering columns as well.

 

I'm not giving stuff away, but will sell at a fair price based on condition and rarity of a part. As Dave pointed out, the price is often dictated by how hard it is to find another and whether I'd prefer to keep a part for my own future needs - having 4 cars inintend to keep - rather than sell it. 

 

I can also make ECM proms if needed,  and have been known to help out with BCM PROM issues (odometer errors and such) but I try not to advertise that so much as I fear it invites potential fraud. If someone is in a jam, we can talk. The worst I can do is decline to get involved if I think something funny is going on. 

 

Being in a somewhat unqiue position of having both a large stash of parts and extensive knowledge of these cars, I'll do what I can if someone contacts me.

 

 

KDirk

 

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Thanx for your attitude in the above reply KD. I have a lot of keen junk that I just can;t throw out but very little is Reatta stuff. Trying to reverse the collection trend. Happy to give you the '87 Riv IPC.

One more empty space on my shelves......

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After purchasing a house, one of my resolutions is to get my shop and several storage facilities moved to my new garage (follow progress here: 

 

 

I will also be driving to Denver to the Nationals with my wife in my 1991 Gunmetal Grey/Flame Red coupe. Some minor things to finish on that car before we leave. It will be a bit of a homecoming trip for that car since it was sold new in Littleton, and we purchased it in Aurora a little over a year ago and drove it home. 

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26 minutes ago, NCReatta said:

The florescent lights are like playing roulette when you flip the switch. Regularly 3 of the 7 (different ones each time)  come on when you turn them on. New LED replacements have been ordered.

 

Congratulations on the new house and garage! Good move on replacing the florescent lights with LEDs. I changed out the 6 lights (12 bulbs) in my garage last winter and it made a world of difference. Instant on, no flicking and full bright when cold. Very happy I spent the money.

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 Well, I hoping to just be able to drive the Reatta I bought in Dec. to a few events later this year.

 The repairs it needed to certify are nearly done, then I can get the safety check finished so I can transfer the ownership. This will happen next week, I hope. We are in the throws of a serious winter here in Ontario, so I will have to wait for a clear and dry day, which will likely be very cold too, so I can it drive it to its' new home. The trip is about an hour and a half, and I'm looking forward to it. The heater works very well, too, as it will be needed.

 Keith

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Wow Marck that sounds like a great set up. All that storage and with the blessing of your wife, good for you. Glad you are done renting and now everything is under one roof and you can just "walk out" and everything is right there. I also improved the lighting in my garage and it makes a world of difference. I just wish I had more room.

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The sign of a solid marriage is to always work together as a team.  Congratulations on the new house!  I very envious of your garage/basement space.

Don't forget, though...if you're ever up this way in New England: don't call it a basement...its a cellar.:rolleyes:

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1.) Follow this forum more than I have the past couple of years,

 

2.) Take the Reatta to a few more local car shows and of course, the Blackhawk Cars and Coffee.  (I typically go with forum member kitskaboodle who some times takes his Reatta too.)

 

Also need to sell my Suburban and 944 (sigh...).

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man this is a bit late but I have only been retired for 11 years and I don't know how I had time to work. My goals this year is to find a nice Chevrolet 409 convertible like the one I had in high school. Great cars but when the Super Stock 426s came out the big bow ties were kina in the dust but that was the good times. I am sure that I will be selling several Reatta  Convertibles. All are in good shape including my Select 60 (gold in Allentown) I have put about $3000. the past  2 years and have driven it to Portland and Allentown coast to coast. other cars for sale would be 1990 convertible red and tan or 1990 white/grey convertible 126000 miles great shape wife uses it for a daily driver in the summer.If anyone has an interest in any of the 3 cars give me a shout

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