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2019 Buick Club National Meet -Midwest City, Oklahoma, June 12-15, 2019

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Need the group's opinion on this: Should the meet offer a bus tour of Route 66 (between Oklahoma City and Tulsa, probably) or should we offer a driving tour of it? There are pros and cons to each.

Bus tour: One tour leader at the front of the bus to narrate and point out everything along the way so no one misses anything; Allows those who fly in with no car to go on the tour anyway; No one gets lost along the way; Ease of parking accommodations for one bus rather than 40 or 50 cars at some of the smaller sites; Costs a lot more to rent a bus and driver than to drive one's own car--at least $45 per person to rent the bus and driver

Driving tour: Nothing compares with the experience of driving your old Buick on an old historic highway; Costs the participants a lot less than a bus tour; Nearly impossible for the tour leader to point out all interesting sites along the way; Possibility of some drivers getting lost or taking a wrong turn; Those who fly in for the meet can't participate unless they have a friend with an empty seat; Old cars make great photo opportunities next to some of the landmarks along the highway; Have to consider what to do in case of mechanical break-downs.

 

What should we do? Offer a bus tour or a driving tour? Or both? Takes more workers for both to be offered and then there is the possibility that the bus tour won't fill up and cover expenses if most folks do the driving tour. Decisions, decisions...

Pete Phillips, 2019 Meet Chairman

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I'd go with self driving tours, although the bus does sound more compact.

 

Those who fly in will probably be renting cars to get to the show site, so theoretically they should have a set of wheels.  And if I drive my car out there, it would be crazy to be taking pictures of sites with the bus instead of my own car. 

 

There is so much to see it might be best to figure out how many miles out would make a logical day tour, and then just highlight a few local sites within that distance and let people travel on their own.

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9 hours ago, JohnD1956 said:

Those who fly in will probably be renting cars to get to the show site, so theoretically they should have a set of wheels.  And if I drive my car out there, it would be crazy to be taking pictures of sites with the bus instead of my own car. 

 

There is so much to see it might be best to figure out how many miles out would make a logical day tour, and then just highlight a few local sites within that distance and let people travel on their own.

I agree with John... 

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1 hour ago, Ben Bruce aka First Born said:

Driving. Only way. Too bad CB radios are not still in vogue.

 

  Ben

Frs radios are still useful for short distances. Problem is they are hard to hear with the top down. 

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What sort of distance would that be? On a pure cost basis, if it's half a tank of fuel, it's in the same range as a bus. What sort of temperature would be the norm?

 

I like both options, but depending which vehicle I have and how comfortable I am with it on the road, I could lean toward bus. Also, if I were to bring the 1923 or 1929, I may be less inclined to drive. 

 

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2 hours ago, Thriller said:

What sort of distance would that be? On a pure cost basis, if it's half a tank of fuel, it's in the same range as a bus. What sort of temperature would be the norm?

 

What little experience I can relate regards our recent Regional after tour.  We traveled in a big circle for 90 miles, stopped at two museums, a National park (with a ten mile circle as a separate part of the tour),  a local war monument, and a tourist attraction, plus a lunch, and lots of photo ops.  It took 10 hours.  There was no highway driving, and max speed was probably 55 MPH.  Can't answer on the temps, and would also like to know.

 

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Bus tours can be fun (and in my case rewarding) as they offer opportunities for folks to meet and talk to those in seats near them. Case in point, I remember the conversation I had with someone on a Danvers bus trip and learning that there was a 3 speed '54 Century somewhere in up upstate New York but that is all  the info they had, upstate New York. From that conversation I started watching the New York Craigs List for '54 Buicks and lo and behold, wasn't but 2-3 years later I unbelievably found my '54 Muscle. 

 

But for this occasion, I would definitely suggest that a driving tour would be the most fun and the way to go. On the tour itinerary just offer a link to a "driving with cellphone Google Maps" tutorial and have a list of addresses for each site that could be used to plug into google. A list of links could also be given out of all the sites to be visited that would give highlights and information of the places that would act sort of as a "tour guide". Also before leaving suggest to everyone that they swap cellphone numbers with others as sort of a "In case of Emergency call this number".  Yea, there may be folks who don't have a cellphone, so to them just suggest they "hold on to the rope"

 

 

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I have been a bit behind with another medical issue.  But, if many may  recall, the Covered Bridge Tour in Allentown was a "free form" driving tour, totally on your own, so I would suggest that you just provide maps and point out attractions, and drive on their ow, any day they want.  I would hate to see trying to keep 30+ cars together on a group drive.  Just my opinion.

 

John

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Driving tour and keep the AAA membership updated.  Besides, with Pete there breakdowns should not be an issue!!

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The room rate is $119/night. I mistakenly put it down as $129/night in the July Bugle's registration form which is in the mail now. Price is $119/night. I just talked with the Helms-Briscoe people (BCA's hotel contract specialists) and learned that 300 of the 490 rooms at the Sheraton are already booked by BCA members for this meet. If you want to be in the host hotel, you had better hurry and make your reservations. There are four or five other hotels within walking distance, so when the Sheraton sells out, you still won't be far away.

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53 minutes ago, Pete Phillips said:

The room rate is $119/night. I mistakenly put it down as $129/night in the July Bugle's registration form which is in the mail now. Price is $119/night. I just talked with the Helms-Briscoe people (BCA's hotel contract specialists) and learned that 300 of the 490 rooms at the Sheraton are already booked by BCA members for this meet. If you want to be in the host hotel, you had better hurry and make your reservations. There are four or five other hotels within walking distance, so when the Sheraton sells out, you still won't be far away.

 

Thanks for giving me a sense of urgency.  I've just made my reservation.

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Just made my.reservations and they were all out of king rooms. Hoepfully one opens up. If you have one and can't go, let me know. I'll take it.

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Reserved 2 rooms for the 5 of us as the maximum per room is four...sigh.  Oh well.  Of course, with being nearly a year away, it’s possible one of the young’uns Won’t be able to attend.

 

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On 6/27/2018 at 12:46 PM, Centurion said:

 

Thanks for giving me a sense of urgency.  I've just made my reservation.

Thanks as well. I have reserved a room for me as well. Hoping to make the trip out for this.

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Just made my regeneration for next years meet.   Had to call hotel directly to make a group reservation.  They said only a couple of rooms left, they (she) couldn't believe it either, almost a year in advance. 

 

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On ‎7‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 9:02 AM, ssmock said:

. . . They said only a couple of rooms left, they (she) couldn't believe it either, almost a year in advance . . .

 

 

I'm not surprised a bit even with all that's going on,  but at the same time you kinda wonder how many of the rooms were blocked off for the VIP BCA folks and how many Buicks the NMC is anticipating. 

Come for the General Membership Meeting and fireworks . . . stay for the car show!  :rolleyes:

 

Al Malachowski

BCA #8965

"500 Miles West of Flint"

 

Edit: Their website indicates that there are 151 rooms total. No info on available parking stalls.

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