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Yes, Locomobiles are still being worked on.  Here are a few pictures of my 1909 Locomobile Model L engine rebuild that is nearing the first start in at least 50 years.   If you have a Locomobile either restored or needing restoration let's gather here for moral and educational support.

Al

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Great to read of the Locomobile Society, and eventually see about more of these very fine cars discussed here. I owned a 1907 Locomobile (the express truck that had been made from a passenger car that Austin Clark had and then sold to me) but sold about 30 years ago. To bad the Locomobile Society limits membership to those that own the cars. There are some of us out here that cherish these cars and do not own one, but have a lot of period information, artifacts, and history of the company.  In my archives is the dealer album of the New York City Locomobile agent with spectacular huge linen backed photographs. I guess I will have to share these via the CCCA.

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Walt, Do you have a picture of the Locomobile Model H when you sold it?  I would like to see.  I have seen plenty of pictures of that car during the ownership of Austin but none even close to current.  Do you have much literature in the way of 1909 that would match my Loco.?  I am also needing or wanting to locate an original cast brass front wheel hubcap.  This cap has a smaller OD than the rear.  Please study the picture.  Update on the Locomobile engine overhaul.  The oiling system is now in place and has been tested to make sure it will work and does.  The upper water tube I had thought was a redo as it was formed out of copper, not brass.  I have since changed my mind and think what I have is in fact the original.

Al

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Al, good to see the brand getting their own AACA Forum. Stellar-looking engine  and car you have there. The only Locomobile I recall seeing is a very nice-looking 1926 in the big museum in South Dakota, the Pioneer Auto Show. Undoubtedly already on the Locomobile roster,  being right on the path to the western National Parks two million people a year visit(about halfway from Chicago to Yellowstone on I-90).

 

The museum (www.pioneerautoshow.com, has 275 cars, 60 motorcycles, 60 tractors) just lists it on their site as ¨1926 Locomobile¨. I have no idea what model it is. It´s one of those old-fashioned museums with some vehicles in fine shape and some in as-found condition; the museum is located in Murdo, SD.

post-49853-143142178323_thumb.jpgThe Locomobile is the dark blue car to left of the one featured here. Photo credit: Jeff Brown, 2012.

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Hello Jeff,  Thanks for the post.  I suspect that the Locomobile you refer to is a small series.  Does anyone here know of the Locomobile listed as being in a museum in South Dakota?  I am curious.....

Al

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I looked at the Locomobile Society pages. Under History, it implied 1925 brought the Junior 8, and the 1926 model was the 8-66, but it didn´t say if previously introduced models were concurrently available. On the Production Number area, it just said 167 Model 48 and 21 eight-cylinder cars were known at present. So maybe the mystery car is a Model 8-66 with a Continental eight, or a Model 90 with an 86 h.p. Locomobile six and a LeBaron or Locke body.

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Interesting... I used to own the Marmon equivalent of the Junior eight.  It was a nice well running machine as I am sure the 8 cylinder Locomobiles were also.

Al

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Here are a few pictures of the proper Solar 933 Locomobile script lights for the Model L.  They turned out real nice.  I should have the tail light next week sometime.

Al

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Here is an update picture that shows all three lights, both side lights and the tail light.  (I just received the tail light back from being restored today)  These lamps are all Solar MFG. and are Locomobile script.  I will have an update on the engine first start soon.

Al

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Fantastic automobile, the cast bronze lower end makes me want to own one. In the 70’s in New England we saw them “often” and now I can’t remember the last time I saw one running. Ten years ago I came across a chassis and motor still sitting outside in Connecticut, and it was still in decent condition, a few years later it was left uncovered for 18 months, and I was told sent to the crusher. It was about 1925 give or take. 

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Hello Ed,  Hind sight is always or nearly always 20:20.  I remember several cars and parts in the past that if I could have only been able to make it happen......  We still have that same option now , but just not as often!  The bronze crank case is a nice feature for sure!.

Al

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Does anyone have a brass 11" Rushmore headlamp (for parts) that has a good body with no stress cracks?  I could use a better body to replace on one of my headlamps.  It is probably OK as is but it does has an old repair of a stress cracked area that surrounds one of the fork brackets, that repair that bothers me.  I will try to post a picture of that lamp and the bad area later.

Al

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I have mostly ended a 40 year hunt for the correct original cast brass hubcaps for the Locomobile.  I now have two rear and two front "original" hubcaps to adorn the car.  I say "mostly over" with my hunt, what I mean is, one of the rear caps is workable but is beat up.  I will rebuild the cap if I can't find a better cap.  Here is the cap that has ended a 40 year hunt, thanks to EBAY.  This cap is a front cap and is about 4.250" OD.  I will later post a picture of the rear cap to assist anyone who may have a loose Locomobile cap that they would be willing to part with.

Al

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I have a pair of nice solid  gas Rushmore headlamps to install on the Locomobile.  The problem is, one body has an old stress crack repair that does not look to good against the rest of my lights.  I would like to purchase a Rushmore lamp lamp for parts, if it has a stress crack free body.  An unbroken parabolic mirror would also be on my hunt list as one of my lamps has a broken mirror.   The lamp would not need to be complete.   I have all the bonnets and doors that I need for a pair of lamps.   If you have or know of a Rushmore parts lamp, please drop a note.

Al

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Here are a few pictures of the Rushmore lamps that will be used on the Locomobile.  I need to replace one body or figure out a decent repair that will not detract from the finished appearance of the lamp.  I would also like to locate a replacement parabolic mirror to replace one that is cracked.  Please help me if you can.

Al

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Does anyone have original pieces of a "Make and Break" ignition system that would have been used on the early Locomobile engines, (such an engine is shown above)?  I would like to at least have the hardware that I may hang on the engine to show how it would work.  Any bits or pieces would be good to use as patterns from which I could recast and build a complete set.

Al

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 Al, you mentioned you need a parabolic mirror, but failed to mention the size you needed ? I have a few of them surplus to my needs, I may be able to help.   Bob

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Hello Bob,  Thanks for the note regarding the parabolic mirror.  I will get the Rushmore down and measure the mirror so I will know what to tell you.

Alan

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Its time for another update on the progress of the Locomobile engine rebuild.  This picture shows the temporary starter system that does not work.  This first try didn't have enough  lead in the pencil" as my Dad used to say, to crank the engine.  I am going to try a Dodge Bros. starter-generator  to see if it has enough twist to roll over this Locomobile engine for starting.  I will attempt to use a similar version to work as a  drive, as shown in the pictures, and hope it will work as a starter and generator.  More pictures later.  Any thoughts or experience on the idea of starter-generator are appreciated.

Al

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Here are a couple of pictures that show better the installation of a Delco dual spark distributor.  This ignition system will provide for a very reliable runner and be a boost to performance with two sets of plugs being fired.  The nice thing, this unit did not require any machine work or modification to install.  I still have the old Bosch DU4 magneto, that was installed on this engine, when the Make and Break Ignition system was removed many moons ago.  The Delco unit rolls over very easily and as smooth as a babies behind, after rebuilding.  I was lucky with this unit to have very minimal wear on any of the drive gears.  I originally thought to update the unit with modern points but decided to stay with the original vintage points.  Modern condensers were used, however.  Does anyone have a need for the original Delco condensers?  I have studied the available room to install the Carter BB-1 carb. and it is going to be a TIGHT fit!  I will not have much room between the back of the Delco distributor and the steering gear.  This vintage Locomobile does still utilize right hand steering.  More later.

Al

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