Chimera Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Looks like some decent turbines. Shields are correct for a 63 (64 with R): https://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-1964-Buick-Riviera-Bolt-On-Turbine-Wheel-Aluminum-Hubcaps-Spinners/232567819560?hash=item36261f4d28%3Ag%3AQAwAAOSwdnZaEcBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 As Steve points out in his ad, the covers are good for a 64 if the web's are painted. The plastic emblem for these spinners is the same part as are the centers for the respective base wheel covers. The 64 center shown is not part of the deal. What is not specified in the ad is if the covers are for the 5-1/2" or 6" wheel. The studs are different lengths for each width wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimera Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Bid is at about $800... Edited November 27, 2017 by Chimera (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Ed - I ended up with set of turbines above from Steve - not cheap but in very nice condition . Think they will clean up very nicely with lots of elbow grease. . Question - it's my understanding that the 63 vanes were NOT painted?... Also the length of the studs should be how long for each of the 63 and 64 ?. My 63 had wire wheels when I got it and I have not had a chance to pull them off yet to see if I Have the correct rims that the turbines will bolt on to. My suspicion is that I don't but will know this weekend . Thanks KReed ROA 14549 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Ken, The 63 covers are not painted. I'll pull some off the shelf tomorrow and take some pictures of the different studs with measurements. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Thanks Ed KReed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Hope this helps, Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, 1965rivgs said: Hope this helps, Tom I have this somewhere but where right now I don't know. Thanks, this should help everyone immensely. ED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Thanks Tom - very helpful. KReed ROA 14549 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Ken, I've been under the weather a bit and have yet to pull some covers off the shelf and get some measurements for the studs. The illustration that was posted by Tom tells the over all length of the two different studs. That's okay if you have factory parts from which to choose. If you're having to come up with something on your own, like a length of all-thread, the most important measurement is not listed on the illustration. That would be the length of the shoulder that's part of the stud. The studs is tightened into the cover, then a nut on the end of th stud holds the cover on the wheel. To keep from exerting pressure between the cover and the wheel, the nut tightens the wheel to the shoulder on the stud thereby putting all the pressure on the stud rather than the cover. I'll get those different measurements posted ASAP. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Thanks Ed - pulled the wire wheel covers off my 63 today and the rims appear to have the appropriate holes to mount the turbines . I am hopeful that these are the original rims and that the turbines will bolt on without a problem . I appreciate your help and hope you get to feeling better . Ken Reed ROA 14549 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) Ken, Ed, I`m very skeptical you will find an exact replacement stud in the aftermarket but I have not done a search. Generally, a "shouldered" stud which is typically found in the aftermarket has a shoulder which is a much smaller diameter (as compared to the original stud`s shoulder). It will likely be much more expedient to stack flat washers to mimic the function of the shoulder on the original studs if you want to replicate the original cover to wheel fit. Personally, I prefer to fit the covers closer to the wheel to avoid the gap between the cover and wheel. Obviously the wheel`s rim needs to be as true as possible to reduce said gap. Attached you will find a pic of an original RED stud. The overall length which protrudes away from the wheel cover, including the shoulder but NOT including the length of the stud screwed into the wheel cover, is 15/16ths. The shoulder of the stud measures 5/16ths. If you happen to have the 5.5 inch rims and need info re those studs let me know and I`ll sort thru a couple piles of these wheel covers to try to find an example to compare. I suspect the shoulder dimensions will be the same but best to confirm. Tom Mooney Edited December 10, 2017 by 1965rivgs (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I got a few covers down from the shelf and took a stud from a cover for a 5-1/2" wide wheel and one from a 6" wheel. The stud from the 6" wheel cover has lost its red color but there's no doubt as to which is which - it's longer. This first picture shows both lying next to a ruler. You can see that they're definitely different overall lengths. This next picture shows the length of the portion of the studs (On the right, not as rusty) that are screwed into the cover. Notice that this part of each stud is the same length. FYI - Because the studs are steel and the covers are aluminum, the studs are very difficult to remove. This picture shows the two studs lying side by side with the parts of the studs (rusty) that go through the holes in the face of the wheel and have a nut (serrated flange nut) threaded onto it. Notice that this part of each stud is the same length. Therefore, the only difference in the length of the studs is the length of the shoulder. The shoulder on the 5-1/2" wheel stud is 1/16" thick. The shoulder on the 6" wheel stud is 5/16" thick. The studs are 1/4" different in length as are the shoulders. That 1/4" is half of the difference between the widths of the two wheels ?. Hopefully this information will help those of you who need to come up with some studs for your cast covers and will space the covers the correct distance from the rim of the wheel. For some of you, you know that distance is just enough for some flunky tire jockey to get a pry bar under and pry a chunk out of your cover. Ed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Thanks Ed and Tom - that is great info . Mine are definitely the longer studs and identical to the ones Tom showed above .I am assuming this is correct the for a 63 ?.. KReed ROA 14549 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 If you have the longer studs but have only the 5-1/2" inch wheels, you'll have quite a gap between the rim and the cover. Remember, when yo measure the width of a rim you measure inside the rim where the tire seats against the rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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