automaschinewerks Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 dad says it would be a full load, but I didn't believe himof course dog had to come with medad and my shop friend think ive lost my mindkinda handy having father with tractor trailer 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksparks Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 looks like a great project.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Losing your mind is a requirement for restoring these old cars. What parent ever understands the next generation? Your dad just hasn’t been bitten by the bug, so you have to get him involved in the rebuild. Looking forward to the build thread pics. Have fun Dave S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 That is a collector's car. You go and collect it from all around the property. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Are both cars the same model? They look like second series GEs. Even if they re the same you may find detail differences in them. The parts car looks to have the under dash parking brake. I think third series models was the first with the floor lever brake. The serial number on the plate attached to the left chassis rail behind the front wheel will tell you more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stude24 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Yikes, you're braver than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automaschinewerks Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 nz, neither the good frame or the parts frame had the serial number plate, I should message white glove and see if there were any stude plates left, all I have is the body number on both the good car and the parts cowl. dave s. I was just joking, dad wants to stop around and pick up an old truck and car to fix up when he slows down. right now when he leaves on a trip he'll stay out for 5,6,7 weeks before he gets a load to come back to Ontario. On 11/25/2017 at 2:35 PM, nzcarnerd said: Are both cars the same model? They look like second series GEs. Even if they re the same you may find detail differences in them. The parts car looks to have the under dash parking brake. I think third series models was the first with the floor lever brake. The serial number on the plate attached to the left chassis rail behind the front wheel will tell you more. also the parts cowl has chrome trim mounted cowl lamps, not the little ones right near the windshield base. does that tell me something about the series? On 11/25/2017 at 12:30 PM, SC38DLS said: Losing your mind is a requirement for restoring these old cars. What parent ever understands the next generation? Your dad just hasn’t been bitten by the bug, so you have to get him involved in the rebuild. Looking forward to the build thread pics. Have fun Dave S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 6 hours ago, automaschinewerks said: nz, neither the good frame or the parts frame had the serial number plate, I should message white glove and see if there were any stude plates left, all I have is the body number on both the good car and the parts cowl. dave s. I was just joking, dad wants to stop around and pick up an old truck and car to fix up when he slows down. right now when he leaves on a trip he'll stay out for 5,6,7 weeks before he gets a load to come back to Ontario. also the parts cowl has chrome trim mounted cowl lamps, not the little ones right near the windshield base. does that tell me something about the series? The car with the later style cowl lamps will be later production but with out the serial number it won't be easy. If you have the engines there will be casting dates. The first letter denotes the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studeboy Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Actually the larger chrome running lights were introduced on the Royal (higher optioned) model ge dictators while the standard models were still using the acorn style running lights. If the parts car is a type 2 sedan but has the chrome larger running lights it is a royal model. I will attach an image showing the type 2 sedans regular and royal from the 1928 Studebaker sales brochure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automaschinewerks Posted December 26, 2017 Author Share Posted December 26, 2017 here are some pics of the engine, a not so good pic of the engine and spare on the skid for a before pic, and a few pics after a few hard rounds with oven cleaner and brushes, painted and in the test stand, and with trans mounted , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHarry Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 What's the idea behind spinning the motor up on a stand rather than actually running it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automaschinewerks Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 harry, the test stand lets me spin the engine once I get the bottom end assembled with oil pan, filled with oil and filter. I can then spin engine and check oil pressure. then I install head(s), spin some more and check compression. spin for awhile and I get an idea of oil leaks (or hopefully lack thereof!). because oil pressure is primed and lifters filled on newer engines, I can set rockers, install valve covers and engine is ready to drop in. my former boss' father made this stand in the late forties when he was rebuilding a lot of Babbitt engines. it originally is for running in the Babbitt bearings, but every engine we rebuilt goes on this stand to test oil pressure, compression, leaks, noise, etc. in books like dykes automobile encyclopedia, where they show sample floor plans for your shop, it shows in the overhaul section a 'burnishing-in stand', and that was for running in the new Babbitt. I put the dictator engine on because it was out of car when I bought the project. I wanted to clean the oil pan, put in fresh oil and spin it to check oil pressure and compression, to decide whether I was pulling it apart before I put it in the car. doing the test stand thing without running it under its own power, is easier to listen for foreign noises that shouldn't be there before I go too far with it and wreck something. other than that big speech, the idea behind using the test stand is because I have it, I guess. thanks for the question - terry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1lark Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 That engine spin stand is pretty neat Terry. I'm impressed that you go to those lengths on the engines your shop builds - you don't find that type of dedication to doing things right too much these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herm111 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 7:02 AM, automaschinewerks said: harry, the test stand lets me spin the engine once I get the bottom end assembled with oil pan, filled with oil and filter. I can then spin engine and check oil pressure. then I install head(s), spin some more and check compression. spin for awhile and I get an idea of oil leaks (or hopefully lack thereof!). because oil pressure is primed and lifters filled on newer engines, I can set rockers, install valve covers and engine is ready to drop in. my former boss' father made this stand in the late forties when he was rebuilding a lot of Babbitt engines. it originally is for running in the Babbitt bearings, but every engine we rebuilt goes on this stand to test oil pressure, compression, leaks, noise, etc. in books like dykes automobile encyclopedia, where they show sample floor plans for your shop, it shows in the overhaul section a 'burnishing-in stand', and that was for running in the new Babbitt. I put the dictator engine on because it was out of car when I bought the project. I wanted to clean the oil pan, put in fresh oil and spin it to check oil pressure and compression, to decide whether I was pulling it apart before I put it in the car. doing the test stand thing without running it under its own power, is easier to listen for foreign noises that shouldn't be there before I go too far with it and wreck something. other than that big speech, the idea behind using the test stand is because I have it, I guess. thanks for the question - terry Looking Good, Terry. 1927 Studebaker Babbitt pictures. 1939 Nash Rods. 1923 Aluminum Air Cooled Franklin Rods, and Mains. 1928 Chevy Mains. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automaschinewerks Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 Since last fall, i finally got my parts car home. It should give me everything to finish the dictator, and a few parts i've already gotten off for my commander. Should be money well spent, with lots left over. i still have lots of work left, but i have everything now with this parts car to complete the dictator. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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