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There is so much on that car I need and the car itself was probably fine.  There is an ad on Denver CL which may have been or is this car, not sure.

 

1st, it's a suede bolster car.  So we need to find out the VIN.  What if it is earlier than my #105?  In any case, Barney and Marck need to update capture information on the car. 

 

2nd, I see a lot of parts I can use, and even restore or add to Reatta Parts sellers inventory.  Like that window switch assembly in the dash, the seats, the hood badge I did need for my SS so I can yank off the one on my car.  It looks very nice.   I could go on and on.  That is why we need to network and at least grab these parts.

 

I am in Des Moines, Iowa and I once took parts off a 1989 for Marck.  That's the kind of cooperation needed.  For me to tell my employer, hold on, I need to run out to Denver to grab parts off this car - and the Black / Tan on Buick Buy/Sell - would require 2 1/2 days of travel, plus 2 days of pulling, hoping I remembered all the correct tools! 

 

Or - if we had a "Reatta guy" in Denver - where in Colorado outside of municipalities there are plenty of salvage yards and yards available for storage - then this one would not be such a loss.  It is a shame.  Kind of like being tied up while they beat your dog in front of you. 

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Well, to continue this topic.  I have a 1990 Reatta that has come to the end of its life.  I purchased this car about 6 months ago with the intent of making it into a show car.  This I did after spending some $6000 on it.  It took 1st place at a well known show and I was the proud owner.  A couple of mornings later, I walked out to drive the car and found the brake fluid on the ground.  The pipe from the master cylinder to the rear splitter has corroded out.  I took it to the shop to have it repaired but they wouldn't touch it and they quoted me $1500 to replace it and repair all of the other rotten pieces.  They also stated that the engine cradle almost fell out when they put it up on the hoist as the mountings for the cradle were also rotten.  So it comes down to; who wants it.  The junk yard offered me $100.  Anything better than that?  The car is located in Beaumont, TX.

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Yes Barney Eaton notified this forum of your car and I did ask and receive your email address.  What you describe can be repaired.  And it is a bit surprising this happened to a Texas car but I believe Beaumont is near the Bay, and IO remember Houston area air having a negative effect on automobile plastics and somewhat on metal and paint.  

 

I am certainly not here to criticize but what did you spend the $6000 on?   Mechanical inspections would have revealed the brake line and cradle issues "right away".    You can probably part the car out for better than $100 then sell the rest to the yard for $100.  They only want it to sell off some parts before crushing it.  

 

Personally I would keep it. If you purchased it to show, it is a car that gives you enjoyment in ownership.  So you have a brake leak? So what.  There are other shops, there is expertise on forums to assist and I don't know what the cradle issue is.  It may only need new bolts?   

I had a 1995 Mercedes SL500 that puked it's cool techno power convertible top. I took it to the dealer for a diagnosis and they came back $7500.  The service advisor said that's because none of the technicians wanted that job. So, that's where you are at.  

 

Be patient, work on one issue at a time and access the forum expertise to get through the process.  

 

This forum, however, is dying fast.  I have heard there is another Reatta forum to go to, but am not familiar. 

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3 hours ago, kiwigram said:

Well, to continue this topic.  I have a 1990 Reatta that has come to the end of its life.  I purchased this car about 6 months ago with the intent of making it into a show car.  This I did after spending some $6000 on it.  It took 1st place at a well known show and I was the proud owner.  A couple of mornings later, I walked out to drive the car and found the brake fluid on the ground.  The pipe from the master cylinder to the rear splitter has corroded out.  I took it to the shop to have it repaired but they wouldn't touch it and they quoted me $1500 to replace it and repair all of the other rotten pieces.  They also stated that the engine cradle almost fell out when they put it up on the hoist as the mountings for the cradle were also rotten.  So it comes down to; who wants it.  The junk yard offered me $100.  Anything better than that?  The car is located in Beaumont, TX.

If you've done that much to the car why would you take that HUGE loss? I know you cannot get out of it what you have put into it but..... you can easily fix the items that you mentioned and have a very nice driver. The "other forum' is reattaowner.com and you will also find tutorials there regarding repairs on many items and specifically on the bushing / bolt repairs for the cradle. If you're trying to make a concours correct restoration you will have trouble finding "original" parts and then you will have to empty your wallet for some certain parts. If you want to have a very nice driver it is easily within your grasp.

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I had a brake line break just as you describe. I took it to "Car-X" and they cherged me $10.00 a foot for repairs. I also had to pay for a brake fluid flush so the entire bill was less then $200.00. The cradle bolts you will need will cost less then $300.00 plus labor. I would say about $1000-$1200.00 for all the repairs you listed including parts.

 If you were within 500 miles of me I would be on my way with a car dolly and a couple of $100 dollar bills, but Beaumont is just too far..

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11 minutes ago, ChrisWhewell said:

I have a 1990 parts car here I'm looking to unload, has everything you need and is driveable, 1/2 hour north of Austin. Let you have it on the cheap if you want it. ps I already put it on the for sale portion of this site a while back, I hope nobody takes this message as being inappropriate, I'm just trying to help the guy out maybe.

Absolutely NOT inappropriate.  These last 2-3 posts reminded me that there are a lot of beater Reattas out there that would serve kiwigram just fine!  I have a 1988 coming in - but it probably won't be at my place until January and the drivetrain is coming out, making the cradle available in theory. 

 

Ask the salvage yard to locate a front cradle for you.   Lots of options.  Sending a car you have $6000 in to the boneyard is not the best option. 

 

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I bought the car out of Columbus OH.  The underside of the car is not repairable unless the car is stripped and rolled over and the entire underside of the car replaced.  If no one wants it, I will just junk it.  The repairs that I have done to the car include; new engine mounts, entire ignition system, the cat converter, the windshield, ($1500 with repairs to the window surround), service manuals, Harmonic balancer and a myriad of other bits and pieces.  To replace the brake line entailed dropping the fuel tank to get at the rear splitter.  To reinstall the tank required fabricating new straps, and then the existing mounting nuts to be cut out of the rusted floor and new nuts and flooring installed.  The same needs to be done to the engine cradle.  The floor is so rotten it all needs to be replaced.  If I had somewhere to store it, I would part it out, but as I live in an apartment complex and the only place I can find to store the vehicle is to cost me $160 a month, the Hurricane and after effects have not helped that situation, junking it becomes the only reality.

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I feel your pain. I had a beautiful '93 Riviera that was perfect, inside and outside; except for the underside. The whole underbelly was rotten. Brake pipes were replaced, air ride sensors dangled from their wires, as the mounts had rotted away, the suspension looked like it came off the Titanic.. Scrapping it was done to put it out of its misery.

 

I've got a '07 Escalade that too has major rust issues in the engine bay and underneath. Trans cooler pipes rotten, exhaust manifolds rotten to the point of leaking, power steering pump rotten.

Perfect body.

Back in the day, rusted bodies were a big issue. Somehow they (GM) got that fixed with better steel coatings, but they didn't follow thru on the underbelly.

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6 hours ago, harry yarnell said:

Back in the day, rusted bodies were a big issue. Somehow they (GM) got that fixed with better steel coatings, but they didn't follow thru on the underbelly

 

The market for "Car Care Products" has nearly tripled over the "Maintenance" category for +20 years now, and Manufacturers have caught on; GQ Public cares more about looks- than function.

 

Everyone wants a clean, shiny car. The choices for wash, wax, polish, scrub, dust, vacuum, shampoo, freshen, etc. are as huge and as numerous for choices as breakfast cereal.

 

Yet- underneath- what do we have? On your back, media blast, wire brush, and POR-15 or something similar to a "truck bed liner" product, which is black, and mostly "unseen". Bare steel brake and fuel lines, and drain holes that haven't seen a drop of water since creation.

 

In my professional years- I'd see beautiful cars, trashed underbody, scared to lift it. Beater, daily drivers- that were rock solid where it counted.

 

People are the same way.

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The car is the usual red collar with a "tan" interior.Pretty common by Reatta standards.  Harry Yarnell, didn't I used to see you on Tom Rohner's Allante site.  I've had three of them and should have bought another rather than this.

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Haven't been very active lately, totally occupied with life and my pair are both on collector's policies now. Very little cost to keep in garage but probably should keep the 88 since I consider it a landmark car and sell the 'vert. Just no motivation.

 

Spent my college years in Indiana/Michigan and remember a 67 Eldo that said No Parking on the driver's floor and "70 MPH" on the passenger side. Now live in Central Florida where "rust must be imported".

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