PWB Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Installed her vanity mirror. I wanted to share this because the surprise for me was that the hidden mount holes were already present under the fabric. No fasteners on the A side. 50 years in the waiting and a snap to install! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr914 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 These days some would think that factory mirror sexist as it assumes the woman is in the passenger seat!!!!! Can't even say something nice these days without getting nixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Thanks for posting this Mr. Paul - have an NOS mirror, but never mounted it as I didn't want to poke holes and damage the sun visor! Some of these 'BUICK is a beauty too' vanity mirrors came with spring steel clips attached instead of the stud style mounts, with the plastic inserts. Edited October 28, 2017 by 68RIVGS (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWB Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 46 minutes ago, 68RIVGS said: Thanks for posting this Mr. Paul - have an NOS mirror, but never mounted it as I didn't want to poke holes and damage the sun visor! Some of these 'BUICK is a beauty too' vanity mirrors came with spring steel clips attached instead of the stud style mounts, with the plastic inserts. I got one of those too! Use it for the booger check. Just use a small sewing pin to find the holes. No damage that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneybeauchamp Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Where can I get one, they look magic! Think Jo would be impressed too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 17 hours ago, 68RIVGS said: Thanks for posting this Mr. Paul - have an NOS mirror, but never mounted it as I didn't want to poke holes and damage the sun visor! Some of these 'BUICK is a beauty too' vanity mirrors came with spring steel clips attached instead of the stud style mounts, with the plastic inserts. I`m curious if the "correct" `67 mirror is the clip on? It would seem that if the holes are punched in the visor already that the above style mirror is correct for `67? I could check accessory catalogs if anyone else is curious, Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Tom, per the '68 Parts Manual - Mirror, Sun Visor Vanity, Gr. 10.195 #981274 shows application '63 -'68, all - and I believe that may be the clip on style? From the boxed NOS stud type I have, Vanity Mirror, Gr. 10.195 # 981521, and per the installation sheet in the box, as shown in Paul's post above shows '68-'69 models only ? . . . I'm curious ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 10 hours ago, rodneybeauchamp said: Where can I get one, they look magic! Think Jo would be impressed too! They sometimes appear on 'evilBay' Buick listings from time to time Rodney. Originally, they were available as a Buick dealer 'over the counter' accessory in the parts dept. back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWB Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 hours ago, 68RIVGS said: Tom, per the '68 Parts Manual - Mirror, Sun Visor Vanity, Gr. 10.195 #981274 shows application '63 -'68, all - and I believe that may be the clip on style? From the boxed NOS stud type I have, Vanity Mirror, Gr. 10.195 # 981521, and per the installation sheet in the box, as shown in Paul's post above shows '68-'69 models only ? . . . I'm curious ! I have the mount holes on both my '67 visors. I had my drill motor ready to go but didn't need it. Perhaps the line geared up for the mirrors but the Buick logo mirrors missed the boats for '67. I believe the E body visors were interchangeable with some GM cousins? OPGI sells an Olds for '67 on up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Mr. Tom will get it sorted out Mr. Paul - not doubting the holes were in your '67 visors ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivdrivn Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 This one came on my very original, low mileage 1950 Special 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epriv Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I bought the same NOS mirror from the Buick Farm about 200 years ago for a 68 that I had. Sold the car and never put the mirror on. I have since installed it on my 70, which to my pleasant surprise, had the holes already in the visor as Paul described. I too located them with a sewing pin. Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC1968Riviera Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) I purchased and installed the "BUICK" clip-on in my 68. I picked it up on Ebay in the original NOS GM box. Edited October 31, 2017 by NCRiviera (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWB Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 17 hours ago, Rivdrivn said: This one came on my very original, low mileage 1950 Special I have two extra 1966+ period mirrors. ROA gets first dibs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneybeauchamp Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 16 hours ago, PWB said: I have two extra 1966+ period mirrors. ROA gets first dibs. Hi Paul, can you send me a photo please, am interested for my '63 thanks Rodney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWB Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 6 hours ago, rodneybeauchamp said: Hi Paul, can you send me a photo please, am interested for my '63 thanks Rodney Here ya go bud. Not period correct for your year? Not mint but very good drivers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj5794 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Hi Paul, I am interested in one of the mirrors. From the images, it appears the reflective surfaces are in very good condition. Hope this is an accurate statement? Please let me know the price you are asking for whatever mirror(s) is now available. Thank you. Jim Vesely BCA # 39477 ROA # 7437. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneybeauchamp Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Thanks for that. Nice mirror in good condition and nice slogan too! So when you are saying not period correct, does that mean there was a different version for 63? If so, wonder what the differences could be? Perhaps how it fits to the visor? BTW were you selling this one, if so what were you wanting? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWB Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) 43 minutes ago, rodneybeauchamp said: Thanks for that. Nice mirror in good condition and nice slogan too! So when you are saying not period correct, does that mean there was a different version for 63? If so, wonder what the differences could be? Perhaps how it fits to the visor? BTW were you selling this one, if so what were you wanting? ?? I'm giving them away. Rodney, I think an earlier version, like Mikes above, befits your generation. BUICK in cursive. But I'm not an expert. Edited October 31, 2017 by PWB (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telriv Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 If it gets to me I would like the clip-on mirror. Thanks in advance Tom T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 On 29/10/2017 at 8:52 AM, 1965rivgs said: I`m curious if the "correct" `67 mirror is the clip on? It would seem that if the holes are punched in the visor already that the above style mirror is correct for `67? I could check accessory catalogs if anyone else is curious, Tom . . . waiting for you to try and sort em out Tom, there seems to be quite a selection shown here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/29/2017 at 3:45 PM, 68RIVGS said: Tom, per the '68 Parts Manual - Mirror, Sun Visor Vanity, Gr. 10.195 #981274 shows application '63 -'68, all - and I believe that may be the clip on style? From the boxed NOS stud type I have, Vanity Mirror, Gr. 10.195 # 981521, and per the installation sheet in the box, as shown in Paul's post above shows '68-'69 models only ? . . . I'm curious ! Well, one needs to be careful with the parts book applications for accessories because they will be listed as retrofits when the "correct" styles are obsolete. For instance, it doesnt make sense the `63 thru `68 style is a clip on when the install instructions for the stud style clearly list `68 and `69 models. Perhaps they are listing the stud type mirror as retrofitting back to the `63 models. If you check the `69 parts book you will probably find the same mirror listed as `63 thru `69 models. I would consider the install instructions for any particular mirror to be a more accurate source of info as the drawings in the instructions are engineering drawings, used in the assembly plant assembly manuals, also the shop manuals, showing the date the drawing were done and the year and model application. If the stud type NOS mirror instructions list `68 and `69, I would take that specification literally as factory "correct". Tom Mooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/29/2017 at 8:05 PM, Rivdrivn said: This one came on my very original, low mileage 1950 Special I believe this visor mirror may be late `50`s to early `60`s. Havnt checked accessory catalogs, etc...just seat of the pants guess Tom Mooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/30/2017 at 12:31 PM, NCRiviera said: I purchased and installed the "BUICK" clip-on in my 68. I picked it up on Ebay in the original NOS GM box. I would love to see a pic of the box and a part number but I suspect this mirror is a mid to late `50`s mirror. The earlier `50`s mirrors were more square and the later `50`s mirrors were elongated...just like the cars! Tom Mooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, PWB said: Here ya go bud. Not period correct for your year? Not mint but very good drivers. I`m quite sure the clip on mirror is correct for first and possibly second (`66-`67) gen cars. We already know the stud type is later or right after the clip on style Tom Mooney Edited November 1, 2017 by 1965rivgs (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 All, I dont have time right now to do the research on these mirrors but if time allows I will post Tom Mooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/28/2017 at 11:03 AM, PWB said: Installed her vanity mirror. I wanted to share this because the surprise for me was that the hidden mount holes were already present under the fabric. No fasteners on the A side. 50 years in the waiting and a snap to install! Paul, Does the edge of the mirror have a "soft" surround?? Thanks, Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I bought my '63 from the original owner who had a lot of "dealer accessories" on the car - purse hook, carpet savers and handy mats (white I might add), and a vanity mirror to name a few. The vanity mirror is a clip on and I'm sure it was new in 1963. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) . . . thanks for the input TOM, the same thoughts probably hold true for just about all of the accessory items for the different model years. Tissue Dispensers, Compasses, Litter Baskets, and Trailer Hitches come to mind, as well as a few others. FYI TOM - No soft surround on the '68-'69 stud type visor vanity mirror, they are metal. ( . . . simply a rolled edge on the metal backing material). Edited November 1, 2017 by 68RIVGS (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivdrivn Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 hours ago, RivNut said: I bought my '63 from the original owner who had a lot of "dealer accessories" on the car - purse hook, carpet savers and handy mats (white I might add), and a vanity mirror to name a few. The vanity mirror is a clip on and I'm sure it was new in 1963. White floor mats??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneybeauchamp Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 13 hours ago, PWB said: I'm giving them away. Rodney, I think an earlier version, like Mikes above, befits your generation. BUICK in cursive. But I'm not an expert. Hi Paul, wow that is a generous offer. However, I think it would be best if it went to an owner who could use it, especially as it has the studs on the rear. I would need to remove those etc and it would be a shame to destroy it. So I will pass on it as I'm happy to keep looking. Many thanks Rodney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj5794 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Paul, A very generous offer. I would very much like the stud type mirror. Kindly contact me with/for shipping information. Thank you very much! Jim Vesely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC1968Riviera Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 13 hours ago, 1965rivgs said: I would love to see a pic of the box and a part number I threw away the box, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Hello All, I did some research re the visor vanity mirrors. I used the single year (as opposed to multi-year) Buick Parts Books (BPB) which are generally very reliable and also referenced the full size 8 1/2 by 11 single year Buick Accessory Catalogs (BAC) which are not as reliable but are still helpful in some cases. Below is an abbreviated rundown of the research... `63 BPB #980094 `64 BPB same as above `65 BPB same................but described as `63 thru `65 `66 BPB same.................described as "all" `67 BPB #981274 The `67 BAC describes this as "clips on back of visor" and the illustration shows what is obviously the #980094 mirror. However, one must keep in mind the BAC`s are very often outdated re their descriptions and illustrations so the change in part # in `67 sends a red flag but is not an absolute in determining whether there was an actual change in the part in question. A change in part # can be due to several factors, ie, a revision/engineering in the part or a different supplier so for all intents and purposes what appears to be the same part can carry 2 different part numbers. `68 BPB #981274 The `68 BAC contains the same description and illustration as the `67 BAC but we know, from the engineering drawings and the listed applications in the NOS kit Paul has pictured, that the kit which carries this part number is the stud attached style. Keep in mind, as I stated in a previous post, the engineering drawings and listed application in the NOS install instructions are VERY reliable. `69 All I have for `69 is the glovebox BAC which does not list a part # However, by `69 Buick revised the text description to say the visor mirror "mounts" to the back of the visor, so they dropped the descriptive term "clips". At this point I think it is safe to say the #980094 vanity mirror is the clip on style and is correct for the `63 through `66 models. The change in part # in `67, #981274, indicates the stud type mirror is correct for `67 , `68 and `69 based on most evidence although the clincher for me would be to find an NOS mirror kit which references the `67 models in the application. The fact that the `67 sunvisors are prepunched for installation of the stud type mirror seems to support the assumption the stud type mirror is "correct" for `67. The `70 BAC lists another part# change! In `70 the # changes to #981521...here we go!? Hope this helps, Tom Mooney 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 11:01 PM, Rivdrivn said: White floor mats??? Yes!! Ed brought this to my attention a handful of years ago and at the time I suspected the mats may have been a carryover from a `50`s Buick...but if memory serves me I found a listing for white floor mats in the `63 Buick Parts Book. I have NEVER run across such floor mats in spite of many, many junkyard runs in my youth in which I specifically targeted floor mats...holy Buick/Cadillac! Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWB Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) Thank you Mr. Mooney. I love the history. To be a fly on the wall in the design/engineering room. I'd like to think the '68 BPB was availed in late '67? And white floor mats? Talk about walking on egg shells... We need photos (I sent both my spare mirrors to fellow members, sorry if you missed out.) Edited November 11, 2017 by PWB (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 . . . thanks for the update Mr. Tom, your research on the visor mirrors will educate us all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, PWB said: Thank you Mr. Mooney. I love the history. To be a fly on the wall in the design/engineering room. I'd like to think the '68 BPB was availed in late '67? And white floor mats? Talk about walking on egg shells... We need photos (I sent both my spare mirrors to fellow members, sorry if you missed out.) Hi Paul, Yes, the `68 parts book would have been available initially in late `67 (there were generally several editions thruout the model year) but that would be typical for the automotive cycle, ie, the automotive model year is not identical with the calendar year...so I dont think the calendar year is significant unless one is considering early versus late model year inconsistencies. I asked whether the stud type vanity mirror had a "padded" edge because Buick added extra padding to the sun visors for `67 versus the `66 style, due to a huge emphasis on safety in `67. I thought that may have prompted a change away from the `66 clip on style visor vanity mirror...but it appears the correct `67 mirror has a metal edge. Interesting to note the `67 rear view mirror which had a padded edge versus the `66 inside rear view mirror. Perhaps the "clips" were eliminated and the studs with female retainers were substituted as an accompaniment to the `67 safety goals? Missed out? I procured quite a stash of these mirrors at swap meets in the `80`s and I suspect they will be found somewhere in Tom`s Buick Abyss after my demise...that was before Ebay, when one had to be Buick dedicated !... sifting thru disorganized cardboard boxes at hot, sweaty swap meets... getting to know the unsung heros who knew their "stuff" thru experience and NOT Google! That time period is really what I miss...lol... great that you offered your extra mirrors to the forum, fair play to `ya! Tom Edited November 12, 2017 by 1965rivgs (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 hours ago, 68RIVGS said: . . . thanks for the update Mr. Tom, your research on the visor mirrors will educate us all ! Hi Randy, Not so much an education as confirmation, just trying to help. Cool, detailed and useless information...God is in the details! Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65VerdeGS Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 2:40 PM, PWB said: I'm giving them away. Rodney, I think an earlier version, like Mikes above, befits your generation. BUICK in cursive. But I'm not an expert. Hi Paul, I just saw your post about the Buick vanity mirrors you generously offered to give away. I have a '65, so wonder if you still have one available? It seems like the clip on style is the right one for my year. Do you still have one? You could send it to me in Washington State. Cheers, Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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