victorialynn2

Tight Lug Nut

Recommended Posts

Can you still get a socket on the nut? If so a breaker bar with a 3 or 4 foot pipe should give you enough leverage to get it off.  The ax is not a good tool to use on any part of a car. It is meant for wood not metal. I feel your frustration but it just wasn't a good idea. Only other thing I can think of is a torch at this point. Good luck. You may be able to break the wheel with a BIG sledge hammer. 

Edited by SC38DLS (see edit history)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There was a crazy video on youtube that might have been posted to here at some point.  Where you take a candle and a lighter and you heat up the lug nut I believe just enough so it will melt the wax.  The wax supposably follows the threads in and the nut magically comes loose.  It looks like it worked for the guy doing it,  but that's also if you can get something on the nut still and you didn't destroy the threads  so that the nut won't back over them which might have happened with the axe.  

I will say you probably felt a little better for a few seconds after the first few whacks though.  

I would search out the video to see the exact method if that's still a possibility.  

Good luck. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You can also try driving an sae 6 point socket on assuming it's metric if you have bungered it up too much for the metric socket to fit properly.  Hard to say without seeing what's left of the nut. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If a socket will not go on the lug nut and you have room to swing a hammer try splitting the nut.  With a good sharp chisel and a hammer you might have better luck than a ax.  Drive the chisel toward the hub. 

Edited by Dennis
Foegot say to hit chisel toward hub. (see edit history)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
38 minutes ago, victorialynn2 said:

I might have had a little anger issue here. Going to have a beer and get some sleep. 

You might need something stronger than "a" beer to mellow you out..

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I had this problem once and instead of banging my head on the wall, I took the car to Discount Tire and had them rotate my tires.  Guess what, my problem became theirs but they got the lug nut off while I was enjoying a coffee.  Thanks Discount Tire.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It is welded to the surface. because it is an a aluminum wheel. I have  a 4-runner with them.. I think I broke three lug nuts..during it life.. 

 

Still have the car.. Now I have steel wheels on it.. 

 

PS - I hope that picture is from the internet,, I do not see you doing that to a car tire.. 

 

 

4runs.JPG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

At this point the wheel is trash, so use a chisel to knock-out a chunk of aluminum between the nut and the center hole to allow you to knock the wheel/tire from the hub.  Once the wheel is off you'll have more room to work.  At that point I'd try a small pipe wrench (with a handle extension if needed), since the more torque you apply, the harder it will bite.  With the wheel off, the nut should come free (as long as the exposed threads aren't totally destroyed).  If the stud snaps, that's OK too, it can be replaced (maybe a good idea anyway).

Edited by EmTee (see edit history)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Unless a 63 Pontiac.

 

At this point think you just need an air chisel to break the wheel apart & remove, then a blue nosed wench to loosen. I'd be looking to either cut or break off the stud since it needs to be replaced anyway.

 

Worst experience was when I bought my travel trailer. Someone with a bigger air gun than I.Q. had managed to put 12mm lug nuts on 1/2" studs. Broke six of the ten studs getting them off so just replaced all. Didn't need any special tools, just 1/2 drive six point impacts 24" breaker (good name), and a six foot piece of pipe.

 

BTW +1 on PB Blaster. It works. Think is a touch better than Kano

Edited by padgett (see edit history)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would pound on a 4 way tire iron, either put something under the end pointing out or have someone strong hold it level then jump on the left side end or use a long pipe on the right side end and pull up, hopefully the stud will snap or the nut will come loose. The stud probably should be replaced now anyway.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, auburnseeker said:

There was a crazy video on youtube that might have been posted to here at some point.  Where you take a candle and a lighter and you heat up the lug nut I believe just enough so it will melt the wax.  The wax supposably follows the threads in and the nut magically comes loose.  It looks like it worked for the guy doing it,  but that's also if you can get something on the nut still and you didn't destroy the threads  so that the nut won't back over them which might have happened with the axe.  

I will say you probably felt a little better for a few seconds after the first few whacks though.  

I would search out the video to see the exact method if that's still a possibility.  

Good luck. 

 

 

 The wax method works like magic. I tried it, it works.  You can't believe how smooth the wax makes turning the nut!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The only problem would be if those are the capsulated lug nuts.  I can't tell from the photo. There doesn't look to be any rust on the threads of the other studs, so as mentioned may be stuck to the rim.  I wonder if it would work the same way if you heat the nut up and try to get it to go between the rim and nut. 

Sometimes a fresh start/ perspective helps alot as well.  I know I've struggled with stuff before and left it.  Came back another time and in not time the job was done.  You just get physically, emotionally and mentally stressed to a point where walking away is best.   Of course choice language helps relieve some of this as well I've heard. ;)

Edited by auburnseeker (see edit history)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

VL2. If you use the break the wheel up method be sure to put safety glasses on. A piece of the aluminum can be very bad for your eyes. Ask me how I know - my fireman father in law decided it was a good idea to use his saws all on a piece I was working on slowly taking it apart when he got anxious!  Laser surgery is no fun but he owed me big time for a very long time! 

Edited by SC38DLS (see edit history)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I bought a new 1990 Cougar that the dealer had fitted with wheel locks! Unfortunately they were steel and the wheels aluminum! Naturally they didn't use anti seize compound and when I brought it in to have the tires rotated, they could only get three of the locks off! Even the breaker bar couldn't get them to budge! Finally they had to torch the balky one off and ruined the wheel!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, victorialynn2 said:

20431302_10214452923187358_3790913642157445604_n.jpg

 

If the pix isn't a joke (I think it is) I recommend you put the other lug nuts back on and drive the vehicle slowly to someone with a torch, impact wrench and common sense.

If it is a joke.........HAW HAW HAW.............Bob

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, victorialynn2 said:

20431302_10214452923187358_3790913642157445604_n.jpg

 

11 hours after the posting you have probably already gotten this wheel free from the stud and car-part.com will be your easiest shopping for the closest place to get a good used wheel.

 

These things do happen and even people who have all the tools to make this job easy, don't usually have them handy when the tire goes flat 20 miles from nowhere. This is a little trick we use in road salt country where everyday, somebody, somewhere, has a nut stuck to an alloy wheel, or an alloy wheel stuck to the hub and they don't have, or can't wait for AAA.

 

When one is desperate, only one nut is stuck and the tinny little tire iron won't break it free, put a couple of the lug nuts on finger tight, drive a hundred feet and try that stuck one again. When they don't come free in the first couple hundred feet, park so the stuck nut is closest to the pavement, put all the nuts on finger tight then back them off a couple turns and rock the car from side to side, keep doing it and checking it until the nut breaks free. Don't know what will happen in the rest of the country, but in rust country the stud sometimes breaks before the nut breaks free and you get the same wheel pop you get when the wheel is stuck to the hub, so don't do this without the loose nuts on for safety.

 

 

 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now