pyntre Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I need some help figuring out the wheels on this 65......am I seeing things or are there trim rings attached over / on the rally wheels of this car ?? Does anyone know who's car this is ? Looks pretty nice in my eyes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRev Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) I know that car (i think anyway), car is located somewhere around Portland, OR. I have spoken to the owner, he told me he used Olds trim rings and that he did it because he did not want to send his wheels out for re-chroming as there was some pitting and surface rust, so this was an inexpensive upgrade and he wasn't without his wheels for any period of time. I agree that they look good, it adds depth to the rim. BTW - it is a legit dual quad GS. Edited July 28, 2017 by TheRev (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Mckenzie Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 The center caps look like `66s (my computer screen is small) Did he strip the black paint off? Anyway, I think it`s an innovative way to dress up ratty road wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnulfo de l.a. Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 MAN I DIG IT!! Never really cared for rallyes till i seen these dressed up,ones. Very creative on the owners part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petelempert Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Wow. That is really cool. I'm surprised GM didn't think to try it. Throughout the 60s and 70's they tried all types of wheel, trim, spinner combos across the various marques. I love it when somebody finds something cool to try that should have been obvious to us all. PRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyntre Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 I hope somebody can get a name or email attached to the owner on this one ! I am in the same boat , would like to save the 1400 .00 bucks on Rechrome on mine and try this option , at least for a while ... I really like the way it looks on those wheels !!!!!! Oldsmobile trim rings , hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRev Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I have his card somewhere, I will try to find it. He made it sound like these were garden variety beauty rings and were not hard to source. I know for sure he told me the ones he used were made for Olds rally wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Mckenzie Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I wonder how deep the trim rings are ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Scott Mckenzie said: The center caps look like `66s (my computer screen is small) Did he strip the black paint off? Anyway, I think it`s an innovative way to dress up ratty road wheels. If they are the original 65 wheels, they are the correct color. The webs in the wheels were not black till later years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsgun Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I'd seen that pic before, I was assuming they were widened also. After comparing to stock pics, it looks like they're normal width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 4 hours ago, Scott Mckenzie said: The center caps look like `66s (my computer screen is small) Did he strip the black paint off? Anyway, I think it`s an innovative way to dress up ratty road wheels. They are '66 -'70 centre caps and those wheels look good with the trim rings !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 My 1970 Skylark came with something similar. Factory painted rally wheels with chrome trim rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyntre Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 I just did a little measuring on the wheels I have , looks like a 3 inch deep trim ring will cover 99 percent of the outer rim . 90 bucks or so will buy 4 new stainless trim rings in that dimension . Would like to hear more on the Oldsmobile option though ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I think that you'd be happier with chrome rings rather than stainless ones. Compare the chrome ones from an Oldsmobile to the stainless ones from a Pontiac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsgun Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 The more I look at this, the more I like it. I wonder if they're rings for 15x8 Chevy Rally wheels? I looked up Olds trim rings, and they a slight step down at the lip area. Rally rings have a flat lip with a sharp transition from the lip of the wheel to the barrel. I want to use short chrome bullets as the center caps, I think it could be something interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Both the 15x7 and 15x8 Chevy rally wheels have a step in the lip. Search for smooth lip trim rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 One thing to keep in mind.......the trim rings will gouge the hell out of the outer rims leaving very dip scratches that would be very difficult to remove if you want to chrome them and go stock at a later date. Also Ed..........on what Oldsmobile model were there chrome trim rings....... I've only ever seen stainless steel trim rings on an Oldsmobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petelempert Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I'm pretty sure the trim rings on my 72 442 are stainless. They look chrome, but up close they have a very mild brushed look. They are 14's so they wouldn't fit my Riv. Good point about the scratches. PRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRev Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Ok saw the car yesterday and spoke to the owner again. Apparently here in Portland there was a wheel shop that was doing a lot of work on original wheels, I do not recall the name. He has his wheels widened by one inch, so they are now 15 x 7, with one inch of offset and he runs a small spacer. At that same time, he bought the trim rings from the shop, and doesn't remember exactly what application they were for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyntre Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 Thank you for the information TheRev ! Sometimes just seeing a new idea is all it takes to work hard for all the answers ,and find the pieces and parts to put it together . There are literally pages of trim rings to browse through on the inter web , just have to order up a set ,or 4 , to get it right !!! As we all know , if you're in a hurry to build a Riviera , you've got the wrong hobby !!! When I get it figured out I will let whoever is following this know !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loren@65GS.com Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 On 7/29/2017 at 6:29 PM, jsgun said: The more I look at this, the more I like it. I wonder if they're rings for 15x8 Chevy Rally wheels? I looked up Olds trim rings, and they a slight step down at the lip area. Rally rings have a flat lip with a sharp transition from the lip of the wheel to the barrel. I want to use short chrome bullets as the center caps, I think it could be something interesting. I like the look also. I tried a trim ring from a 15X8 Chevy Rally wheel the other day. Definitely won't work. Loren@65GS.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 On July 28, 2017 at 6:28 PM, RivNut said: If they are the original 65 wheels, they are the correct color. The webs in the wheels were not black till later years. Hi Ed or anyone out there - just had my 65 GS wheels replated by Rally America and need to tell them what color (silver/gray ) I want in the webs. Any help would be very much appreciated . Thanks KReed ROA 14549 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 they should be a non metallic charcoal gray........ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Thanks for the info Winston . KReed ROA 14549 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Ken, What color is your car? There's an ROA member here in the Kansas City area who has a triple black 65. His car looks so much better with black painted webs on his rally wheels. He also runs triple stripe white side walls. The car is a real head turner. Are you looking to recreate a 400 point car or one that might be what you would have designed had you been working in the Buick studios back in the day? I think that my silver 65 wouldn't look as good with the black webs so I'll stick with gray. My $.02 opinion. Ed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Hi Ed - assume you are talking about Gordon's car? If so , I have seen that car and it is indeed gorgeous ! My 65 is in primer right now and I am vacillating on whether to paint it in its original Verde Green or something else . I have no interest in the 400 point thing - just want something that looks good . This car was all original when I bought it three years ago and did have faded gray webs from sitting in a Minnesota barn for 30 years but suspect black would look good as well if I did go back to the Verde Green ( interior is black) . Thanks Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I think that the picture of the Seafoam car in Winston's post looks good with the gray webs in the wheels. The red line tires look good, although I'd prefer a triple white side wall. Just my choice. If we all thought the same on everything, this would be a pretty boring world in which we live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I picked up a set of Buick Rally Wheels for my winter tires for my Roadmaster wagon. On the way home I stopped at The Hubcap answer Wheel Store in Kansas City Kansas. I found dead a set of deep dish trim rings for a Monte Carlo. The part number that I was given is TR 225 DD. I didn't get a manufacturer. Wheels are still in the back of the wagon waiting game to be cleaned up and have the webs repainted. $60 for four wheels; $60 for four trim rings. Anyone have any ideas for center cap for a two inch hole. Remember, this is for a 94 Roadmaster wagon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 On 8/20/2017 at 8:42 PM, Seafoam65 said: they should be a non metallic charcoal gray........ Maybe it is the shade reproduction in this particular picture (or maybe its my laptop!) but this does not look like the factory `65 color in the wheel webs. There appears to be much more gold/bronze in this picture...but the weird thing is as the color progresses out from the lug nuts toward the chrome rim in the lower web the shade changes to what is closer to factory ??? Weird...aside from the common description which Winston uses in his post, non-metallic or charcoal grey, the factory color approaches what fresh, new cast iron looks like. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) TThe way they look depends on the lighting......that shot was with a late low in the sky piercing sunlight hitting the wheel here's another shot under more normal lighting conditions......Also, the Seafoam Green paint looks different depending on the light. It looks Green in bright sunlight, and much more blue in the shade. Edited August 31, 2017 by Seafoam65 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 The first shot was taken in very bright low in the sky sunlight....the second the sun was in the clouds and high in the sky....the car looks like it is a different color with pictures taken from the same camera. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC1968Riviera Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Seafoam65 said: the car looks like it is a different color The red lines look awesome you your car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) Thanks......One of my friends owns a 1965 Bonneville 421 Tri-power convertible that is the exact same color as my car except Pontiac called the color Palmetto Green. His car has 8 lug wheels with redlines and came from the factory that way. You could get redlines on big Pontiacs in 1965 because they had 14 inch wheels instead of 15. Back in 1970 when I was going to the University of Texas, there was a lady who worked at the State Capitol which was just south of campus who drove a Bamboo Cream 65 Riviera GS with a black vinyl top, black cloth custom interior and Chrome Wheels with redlines......it was the prettiest 65 riviera I have ever seen back then or now. I am considering going with triple whitewalls when my current tires get too old to be safe in two years. Here's what my car looks like with whitewalls to give you a point of reference..... this shot was when I took delivery of my car by Auto Transporter.........I removed these tires the next day because they were 12 years old and not safe to drive on although they looked brand new. Edited August 31, 2017 by Seafoam65 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnulfo de l.a. Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 On August 30, 2017 at 4:21 PM, RivNut said: I picked up a set of Buick Rally Wheels for my winter tires for my Roadmaster wagon. On the way home I stopped at The Hubcap answer Wheel Store in Kansas City Kansas. I found dead a set of deep dish trim rings for a Monte Carlo. The part number that I was given is TR 225 DD. I didn't get a manufacturer. Wheels are still in the back of the wagon waiting game to be cleaned up and have the webs repainted. $60 for four wheels; $60 for four trim rings. Anyone have any ideas for center cap for a two inch hole. Remember, this is for a 94 Roadmaster wagon. Ed, did you end up installing these on your wagon? Did the beauty rings fit without widening the rim ? And last question, what code number are your rims? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) I wound up not running the beauty rings when I took off the summer tires/wheels and mounted the M/S tires on the rally wheels. The guy at the store got them to seat. When I tried, once the tires were mounted, I couldn't get them to seat. That's only been a couple of weeks ago so after the holidays, I'm going to go back to the store and see what he did that I didn't do. These wheels are the 895 code wheels - came out in 1971. The last picture is off a ring seated on a standard 895 rim. No modifications to anything. I'll post again after going back to the store where I got the rings. Ed Here's a picture (sorry about the dirt) of a wheel on which I have repainted the webs and assembled a really old center cap, on an old wheel, with a modern emblem. Edited December 26, 2017 by RivNut (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWB Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 8/30/2017 at 7:21 PM, RivNut said: I picked up a set of Buick Rally Wheels for my winter tires for my Roadmaster wagon. On the way home I stopped at The Hubcap answer Wheel Store in Kansas City Kansas. I found dead a set of deep dish trim rings for a Monte Carlo. The part number that I was given is TR 225 DD. I didn't get a manufacturer. Wheels are still in the back of the wagon waiting game to be cleaned up and have the webs repainted. $60 for four wheels; $60 for four trim rings. Anyone have any ideas for center cap for a two inch hole. Remember, this is for a 94 Roadmaster wagon. This combo looks deeper than a Chicago pie. Quite a good effect of depth and all GM. I'll bet there is an off beat spinner that would match it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I'm just hoping that there's a trick to getting the trim rings to seat. A lot of the effect is lost by not having them on the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnulfo de l.a. Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Thanks for the info ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIVNIK Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Listen! Hear that sucking noise? That's the sound of Olds trim rings disappearing! Better git on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jframe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Ed, how did you paint your wheel pockets???? Mine are black, and I'd like to redo them to the gray type color used in 65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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