kreed 80 Report post x #1 Posted March 16, 2017 Just got my 65 chassis ready to paint and am debating satin black vs gloss black . Was the original finish satin black ? Finding that the gloss black is twice as expensive and suspect it would be harder to repair chips. Would appreciate thoughts . Thanks Ken Reed ROA 14549 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black River 104 Report post x #2 Posted March 16, 2017 I don't know what factory is, but to me satin looks best on a chassis, unless you're building a Deuce coupe or something completely custom. Plus, as you stated, it'll be about 100 times easier to touch up, and it won't look as dirty or beat up after a few miles. Just my 2 cents....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
60FlatTop 2,822 Report post x #3 Posted March 16, 2017 My frame still had some satin black on it when I took it to the sandblaster around 1994. I had cleaned it so well the snadblster asked why I brought it there. I told him I just wanted some tooth. They did the job and shot it on site upon completion with epoxy primer. Then they gave it a couple of coats of Valspar satin black polyurethane, That was 20+ years ago and I am as happy now as I was then. I also did the inner fender wells and other stuff. It is the best match for the factory finish I have seen. Today I would probably use a polyurethane 2K primer, but still stay with the Valspar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
60FlatTop 2,822 Report post x #4 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Here's a side note. See those rusty rear brake drums? I picked up a really nice pair of used drums, no rusty scale, lots of meat, really nice. I glass beaded them, red oxide primered, and satin blacked them. I went to slide them on and they were '65's. The hole was too small. Grrrrrr. Put them in a big lathe and now they have bigger holes. Bernie Edited March 16, 2017 by 60FlatTop (see edit history) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kreed 80 Report post x #5 Posted March 17, 2017 Thanks to all for the advice - leaning very strongly to satin black . Just finished 320 grit today - frame smooth as glass . KReed ROA 14549 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KongaMan 429 Report post x #6 Posted March 17, 2017 Is it customary to sand a frame that smooth? We always left them a bit rough (i.e. whatever the blasting left you with) so the finish had more bite... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JZRIV 889 Report post x #7 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Definitely satin. Semi gloss is ok as long as it's more on the lower gloss side. Same as you would use for engine bay black. Curious Ken. Did you find the hidden VINs stamped on frame? Edited March 17, 2017 by JZRIV (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gord14080 16 Report post x #8 Posted March 17, 2017 I used por15 too shiny ,found serial numbers and date frame was made 10/6/64 with the word parish?any ideas what that represents? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
60FlatTop 2,822 Report post x #9 Posted March 17, 2017 The Valspar polyurethane is my preference for frames and I have a couple of quarts on hand. I have never had to touch up the Riviera, though. Valspar is not an automotive paint so you need to go to a paint store or hardware, maybe Lowes. I bought mine at a place call Hadlock's in Rochester, NY. I bought a few gallons and had them put it in quarts. I sold most of the quarts to car guys whom liked my job. I was don't a lot of flea markets and home garage walk ins back them. At the time a quart was only $6-8 when I bought a gallon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alini 121 Report post x #10 Posted March 17, 2017 I found my VINs. Can tell you right where to look drivers side about even with the area the brake cable goes they the frame. And drivers side near the rear most exhaust hanger. Bother are on the top of the frame and can be seen with a mirror Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kreed 80 Report post x #11 Posted March 17, 2017 19 hours ago, KongaMan said: Is it customary to sand a frame that smooth? We always left them a bit rough (i.e. whatever the blasting left you with) so the finish had more bite... Not sure if it is customary or not but decided to go the extra mile and hope that it "sticks" . Lots of sore finger tips sanding in and around all the mounts! Undoubtedly areas that will never be seen by anyone but ... I would know if they are not done right - call me crazy . 14 hours ago, JZRIV said: Definitely satin. Semi gloss is ok as long as it's more on the lower gloss side. Same as you would use for engine bay black. Curious Ken. Did you find the hidden VINs stamped on frame? Thanks Jason - decided to go with satin black after all the advice above and here locally. Re: hidden VINs on frame , didn't know there was such a thing but will definitely look now. Appreciate everyone's help and suggestions . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JZRIV 889 Report post x #12 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Will be on top. 66 is on driver side rail across from tranny tail housing. The other is on driver side rail behind axle. Edited March 17, 2017 by JZRIV (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted "Wildcat65" Nagel 131 Report post x #13 Posted March 18, 2017 I used to get GM chassis black from the dealer Now I think I'd find some satin black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kreed 80 Report post x #14 Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) Chassis finished in satin black which was the right choice-smooth as silk. thanks for all the advice . Now onto the body .Hidden VINs there but unreadable KReed ROA 14549 Edited March 31, 2017 by kreed Misspelling (see edit history) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black River 104 Report post x #15 Posted March 31, 2017 Looks fantastic! Nice work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JZRIV 889 Report post x #16 Posted April 1, 2017 (edited) Indeed that looks spectacular Ken. Of course now we expect that from everyhting you do! I have found while painting a frame should be simple, there seems to be an infinite number of angles and hiding places that are hard to see and get adequate paint coverage on. Does anyone know for sure, I'm thinking the original frames were dipped instead of sprayed. Seems like I recall seeing runs and pooling paint consistent with the dipping process used on many smaller parts, but then again the interior of frame should have same coverage and I don't think it did? Edited April 1, 2017 by JZRIV (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chasander 17 Report post x #17 Posted April 1, 2017 Frames were unloaded from the RR Flat car already painted from a vendor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
