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Black River    82

Just thought I'd share a few pics of the before and after of the engine on my '63.  When I bought the car, this was definitely the most lacking part of it.  I added a Richie's Dragmaster valley pan, which I polished (a beautiful piece, but just pay the extra $40 for polishing, it takes HOURS to do it correctly), some Offenhauser valve covers, a Champion aluminum radiator, Derale fan, batwing aircleaner which I pinstriped (lots of modifying and customizing to get it to fit under the hood), then I removed most the components and painted and detailed just about everything.  I replaced all the engine bolts with stainless allen bolts or studs with stainless cap screws.  I also rerouted most the wiring and painted the firewalls.  Still a little bit more to do, but the engine itself I'm happy with......

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Black River    82
23 minutes ago, PWB said:

Outstanding. Need a washer jug? CARS

 

http://www.oldbuickparts.com/cart/windshield-washer-reservoir-1963-70-riv-p-773.html

 

 

 

Thanks fellas, I don't know why it looks so "orange" in the pics, I think the flash on the phone has something to do with it.  I got the paint matched to the car's red stripes.  As far as the washer jug goes, mine was fine, I just don't think I'll be driving it in rain or other weather, so I removed it to clean it up over on that side of the engine compartment.  I may fab a polished aluminum one to match the rest of the aluminum stuff, though.  I left everything else in place so I can always go back.  Thank you, again, though.

 

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Looks good, I like the `55 Olds air cleaner. A suggestion ,if you haven`t already, 

use Loctite on stainless fasteners, they have a way of loosening off. 

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Black River    82

Thank you guys, I like the batwing Caddy/Olds myself.  It was not easy to get it to fit, and had to modify a lot of things to get it under the hood, and I can explain if anyone cares to listen haha.  I wasn't going to stop until I got it under the hood and off the carb, I just feel like it fits the style of my car.....And thanks for the tip on the Loctite, it is very useful.  I used to rig boats for a living, and we used blue on everything unless it was stainless on stainless, then we used anti-seize otherwise you'd gall the threads and it'd never come apart without breaking the bolt.

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TimFloyd    2

Looks great! If you don't mind me asking, how much did you give for the radiator? With the warmer weather coming in shortly I am thinking about swapping out to an aluminum. Great job under the hood! 

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Black River    82
59 minutes ago, TimFloyd said:

Looks great! If you don't mind me asking, how much did you give for the radiator? With the warmer weather coming in shortly I am thinking about swapping out to an aluminum. Great job under the hood! 

You can get them from jegs. They start at $175 and go up to $250 I think for one rated for 1000 HP, and that's what I went with. Fit and look fantastic!

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jsgun    29

I'm really interested in what it took to get the aircleaner to fit. I was considering one for my 64. I figured it would be a tight fit.

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jsgun    29

Was there any issues with the valley pan fitting under the intake? It's a perfect match for the Offy valve covers. I like dragmaster valve covers, but I wish they were available without the letting on the sides. I also like the large dragmaster viper scoop, that would be a interesting sight when you popped the hood.

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Black River    82

Sorry fellas, was at home last night and I don't have a computer, and posting from my phone sucks.  Agreed on the Richie's valve covers, I think they're cool, but I didn't like the script.  The Offenhausers have always been my favorites on the Nailhead, though.  Burt (aka Richie) is a super cool and super friendly guy to talk to.  His valley pan fit like a glove, no mods needed, but as I stated, just pay him to have it polished.  That was 4 days after work of sanding and buffing for me......As for the air cleaner.....The air cleaner originally comes with a standard base, which makes it stick up above the fenders, so I first had to get a 2.5" drop base for it, which then hit the fuel line. I got a 90 degree banjo fuel fitting for that, then it hit the electric choke on the Edelbrock carb, so I cut and welded a pie shaped section out of the drop base, then it hit the linkage. So, finally, I took a 1.5" carb/air cleaner spacer and removed about .8" out of that, and with two aircleaner/carb gaskets, it all fits now. Lots of little headaches, and I came thiiiiiiiiiiiiiis close to cutting the hood support for clearance, but got it all to fit after a few days of messing around. I love the batwing air cleaners, and I wasn't going to give up until it fit. Depending on what carb you've got, it may be different.  If you do the math, you can probably cut out a couple of my steps, but you'll at least need a drop base and do some cutting or precise denting to get around carb parts.  On my Caddy, I just had to add a .75" carb spacer for clearance on the A/C compressor and that was it.

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Black River    82
12 hours ago, TimFloyd said:

Looks great! If you don't mind me asking, how much did you give for the radiator? With the warmer weather coming in shortly I am thinking about swapping out to an aluminum. Great job under the hood! 

Here's a link to the radiators from Jegs.  They fit great, the only thing I needed was to change trans cooler fittings. http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchResultsPageCmd?N=1010123&Tab=SKU&enginetype=4294798889&make=4294829225&model=4294829199&submodel=4294829828&year=4294829683&storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&langId=-1

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jsgun    29

Thanks for the tip about the air cleaner. Obrien Truckers has a really nice cast aluminum one, with a finned cover I really like. Awesome valve covers to match it. A little out of my price range at the moment, but hopefully someday in the future.

 

My engine is currently some variation of the buick green color, but I'd like to change it up and either go Chrysler Industrial Red (intense cherry red) or 60's AMC teal. Metallic teal, with lots of polished aluminum in a black engine bay would be striking. The AMC teal is like a custom metallic version of the buick green. The metallic blue of the 70's was also very exotic looking.

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Black River    82

That's cool that he's making them like that now.  His prices can't be beat, and he's a really cool guy.  The valley pan was top notch quality that I got from him.

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Black River    82

It's done.  Finally got to take it out for the first time and make sure all is well, after a fixing a few small leaks all good to go.  Love the smell of burning header paint...... 

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kreed    33

Beautiful job in every respect. Just curious- did you pull your engine to paint it ? Or just take as much off as possible and tape off stuff. From your initial post , got the impression you did NOT pull it . Are your exhaust headers painted or powder coated ? Thanks 

KReed

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Black River    82

Thanks!  I just masked and painted everything.  I masked off the block and firewalls then painted the headers with ceramic header paint, then masked off those and painted the engine.  I pulled all the brackets, alternator, distributor, etc. before painting, then sand blasted and painted those separate.  I knew I was pulling the intake to do the dual plane mod and to put on the new valley pan, so I just painted the engine with the old covers and pan on, then pulled those and replaced them.  I rerouted a bunch of wires and cleaned up all the wiring and whatnot, then covered the whole engine and painted the firewalls, radiator mount, and everything else.  Done a few cars like this. It sounds time consuming, but if you go one step at a time and just try to get one section done a night, it goes pretty smoothly.

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Black River    82

No worries, glad people are checking the engine out.  I'm going to fab a finned aluminum battery cover, as it's driving me nuts looking at it just sitting there out of place.  When I look at the engine compartment in person, it looks super clean and well put together.  When I look at these pics, I see more I can do haha....

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RivNut    948

Has anyone who is NOT going for a period correct restoration ever thought of going with a side post battery for their first generation Riviera?  It sure would clean up that corner of the engine bay and get those posts/cable away from the sheet metal.  

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Black River    82

I had a side post in it (I thought the exact same thing), but the cable was too close the to the power steering pump pulley and inner fender for my taste.  I don't have a voltage regulator (I've rewired the whole damn car because of the previous owner and have a 1 wire alternator now), but if it was still there the post would be super close to it, too.  But, a great idea, it just didn't work out.

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RIVNIK    27

Nice!   Glad you posted the new photos w the true red. Way better than the orange look.  BTW, there's very little clearance between the battery posts and the underside of the hood, so plan your battery cover carefully. I found this out the hard way....some time ago I was having my engine rebuilt after a long period of storage. I authorized the mechanic to install a new battery. Unfortunately he got the wrong one, which was about an inch taller than stock. Upon completion, he closed the hood. Thank God only one of the posts hit the underside, otherwise the Riv might have become a giant welding rig.......as it was it pushed up that corner of the hood, cracked and chipped the paint topside.      jus sayin.

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Black River    82

Yeah, it's dang close, they definitely were trying to keep the hood low and sleek on these things.  Getting anything to fit under the hood that is bigger than stock like my Olds/Caddy air cleaner is an exercise in patience, math, and trial and error.  I'm working on the battery hold down right now (well, in 1/2 hour when I get home)......I might just end up putting it in the trunk in a custom enclosure like my faster cars, only this time just for the cosmetic purposes instead of the weight distribution.  Thanks for the compliments fellas, I really do appreciate it.  This board is awesome and it's cool how supportive everyone is of each other.

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