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2 hours ago, edinmass said:

For eight grand, it’s worth buying just to say you owned a CCCA Classic Elcar. If the car were on the east coast I would probably consider it. Sadly, at that price, a street rod would certainly consider it as an option. Rare and unusual doesn’t mean expensive. 

 

Ed, I agree, the car needs a ton of work, but a running Classic for 8K is fun!  It's a shame the fellow who inherited it has no interest, but that's the way it goes.....

 

As far as making a hot rod out of it, if I were of that ilk I'd surely look for something with a little more styling to rod.....

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8 hours ago, edinmass said:

For eight grand, it’s worth buying just to say you owned a CCCA Classic Elcar. If the car were on the east coast I would probably consider it. Sadly, at that price, a street rod would certainly consider it as an option. Rare and unusual doesn’t mean expensive. 

 

I agree with you completely, Ed. 

 

What happened to that old chesnut: ``Nobody but millionaires can afford to buy CCCA Classics.´´?

 

 

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On 10/19/2017 at 12:53 PM, cars of chaos said:

I became interested in the Elcar after reading the Hemmings article mentioned earlier in this thread. Of course, the real trick is finding one of these for sale. I am interested in finding one, even an unrestored project. I'm in New Jersey. These are such fascinating and (sadly) largely ignored pieces of automobile history. 

There will be an auction in Ohio this August with 2 Elcars. The Lloyd Young estate sale, held by Mike Clum Auctions(www.clumauctions.com). AUG 10th &11th 2018, near Columbus.

An outstanding set of cars, catalog not out til May[also Buick, MG Midget, REO, Cadillac, Ford, Pierce-Arrow, Peerless, Packard, Templar, Baker, Franklin, Marmon]. Looks like a Coupe and a Sedan, nice condition, 1924 and 1926, based on the preliminary photos.

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I got to meet Lloyd once, but didn't know they had Elcars, too. Thanks for posting the photo: looks like a new car! Did you see the '22 Elcar some one has for sale on the Car For Sale Forum(last post 4/22/18)?

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No, I had not seen the '22 K6 coupe for sale (I have to admit that I rarely get into the forums)... nice little car. God knows why he sent me to Mexico... otherwise I would have a much larger collection! I would certainly get that car for the price mentioned.... but not possible from down here as importing a car legally is tremendously expensive these days.

One more car for my Elcar picture collection. Thanks for pointing it out.

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The pictures of the '22 Elcar are deceptive, I think. My guess is that the coupe is pretty big, height-wise. I know someone went to a lot of trouble to pose with "The Tramp" Charlie Chaplin impersonator, but it takes away from the kind of car it is, along with the faded paint.  From a long ways away it looks like just another Model "T" or Dodge but it was a higher grade car...I think you'll agree. We are(maybe wrong word since I've never owned one) getting enough discussion about Elcar, maybe there ought to be an Elcar Forum now.

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1 hour ago, jeff_a said:

I know someone wth "The Tramp" Charlie Chaplin impersonator, but it takes away from the kind of car it is, along with the faded paint. 

 

You read my  mind Jeff.

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Jeff: I think an Elcar forum would not get much movement. It is only a handful of interested guys with a bit more than a handful of surviving cars... and yes!, the car seems rather tall and large.

 

I am posting a pic of the coupe for sale, since these thread has been also working as an "Elcar inventory". 😉

 

 

 

1922 K6 serial 3563

1922 Elcar K6 Coupe, 2.JPG

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 For future reference and researchers of Elcars The 1928 Elcar 8-78, A7K88, Sedan, on ebay 2016 sold for $7600 and was shipped overseas (not sure where) for restoration. I purchased and now own A5R89 a 1927 8-82 5 pass sedan. I am always interested in parts or even another Elcar for restoration if anyone has any in the future. Wouldn't mind connecting with other Elcar owners also. Jonathan

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On 4/26/2018 at 5:03 PM, v.milke said:

No, I had not seen the '22 K6 coupe for sale (I have to admit that I rarely get into the forums)... nice little car. God knows why he sent me to Mexico... otherwise I would have a much larger collection! I would certainly get that car for the price mentioned.... but not possible from down here as importing a car legally is tremendously expensive these days.

One more car for my Elcar picture collection. Thanks for pointing it out.

What if someone had a 30m yacht in Los Angeles and took this car with him to a car show in Cabo San Lucas or Agua Caliénte. He drives it around a little after the car show and a hotel owner buys it to display in his lobby as a static display, not to drive. Then you happen along awhile later and buy it from him, maybe paying a 10% sales tax. Would any laws be broken, or would there be a 200% import tax on this used car, like my teacher said was assessed on him bringing a new refrigerator and washing machine to a Mexican friend in 1975?

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On 5/21/2018 at 1:05 PM, Jonathan Winans said:

 For future reference and researchers of Elcars The 1928 Elcar 8-78, A7K88, Sedan, on ebay 2016 sold for $7600 and was shipped overseas (not sure where) for restoration. I purchased and now own A5R89 a 1927 8-82 5 pass sedan. I am always interested in parts or even another Elcar for restoration if anyone has any in the future. Wouldn't mind connecting with other Elcar owners also. Jonathan

 

Jonathan, congratulations on your purchase. A5R89 looks like a very complete car.

 

I have a 1926 project which I am not sure if I will ever get to do, but in the process of learning about it I saw several Elcars and looked for information everywhere. I collect pics of whatever Elcar I come across. If you need any pics on details for your car, please feel free to contact me directly: vmilke at nutryplus dot com.

 

Thanks,

Victor

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On 5/23/2018 at 1:15 AM, jeff_a said:

What if someone had a 30m yacht in Los Angeles and took this car with him to a car show in Cabo San Lucas or Agua Caliénte. He drives it around a little after the car show and a hotel owner buys it to display in his lobby as a static display, not to drive. Then you happen along awhile later and buy it from him, maybe paying a 10% sales tax. Would any laws be broken, or would there be a 200% import tax on this used car, like my teacher said was assessed on him bringing a new refrigerator and washing machine to a Mexican friend in 1975?

 

Jeff, I really wouldn't know. Many things do not work well around here... and of course there might be a way around a few of them if you care to find it, but I am respectful of the law and would not like to get into anything other than the standard procedure.

I have a car that I bought down here that may not be fully 'correct' and I get a kind of a headache every time I remember about it, knowing that if sometime for any reason my car could get checked (not likely to happen, perhaps only in case of a big accident or something similar) I may loose it for not being legal.

Better stay on the correct side of the line.

v

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I'm not suggesting that anyone should dodge taxes or import laws. I read, recently, about some super-rich guy who had a motor yacht so big he and his wife carried a Fiat 500 or something aboard so they could drive around at different ports they visited. I was just posing a theoretical case & wondering how our countrys' myriad laws would apply. It's possible a police chief or port inspector would say the above situation would not be allowed -- but with a proper explanation beforehand, maybe they would understand that smuggling on the high seas was not the intent. To me, it would be the same as the owner of the 100-foot yacht going to a marina in Mexico and selling an $8,000 painting to a hotel owner if the hotelier insisted on buying it, then you buying it a year later when you saw it in the lobby. Maybe the hotel man would have to pay an import duty. I'm not an attorney or a customs officer so admit to being ignorant on the subject...but informing the officials beforehand may work better than trying it to find out if it was legal.

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I am also an ignorant on the subject, Jeff. It is a good idea... but who knows if it can be done or not and what would happen...

 

Back to Elcars, I am posting a pic of what is a very rare and valuable option... a Pegasus hood ornament that I once saw on ebay (it was Elcar's emblem as can be seen in the radiator badge),

 

 

Radiator Cap Emblem, Elcar Winged Horse, 2.jpg

 

Radiator, Elcar emblem, 1, 2.25 tall and 2 inches wide.jpg

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