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alsancle    437

I know there is a Pierce forum but I would like to start a thread on Classic era Pierce arrows.  There is a good discussion a few threads down on the Packard 12 vs the Pierce 12 which gave me the idea we needed this thread.

 

 

Here is a 32 LeBaron V12 Catalog custom barn find that Joe Bortz found recently.  It was pictured in the last Pierce club magazine.  I believe identical to the 31 bodies and one of maybe 5 built and 1 or 2 installed on the 32 12 chassis.  Since it is the short wheelbase I believe it is the 150hp smaller 12.

 

 

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Matt Harwood    987

I actually spoke to Joe about that car two or three weeks ago. The engine is stuck, but he seems committed to getting it up and running so I referred him to a shop that has familiarity with something of that magnitude. I'd wager that it's a fairly valuable car when restored, but given how solid it looks, perhaps simply cleaning it up and getting it running would be a better choice. I haven't seen it in person so I can't say, but Joe isn't a rookie at this. It's an exciting find and I'm sure it'll be back in circulation before too long. Nice to see a photo, I didn't know what he had other than a "32 V12" Pierce.

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edinmass    274

It's a great car. Much better looking in person than the photos imply. Interesting story on the car, but I will let Mr. Bortz tell his portion first when he is ready. It's a top twenty Pierce Arrow as far as I am concerned. With the alminimum custom body and the V-12 motor it puts in into a very, very rare catagory of a Pierce Arrow custom car. Here is another shot of it. Better angle showing the lines, 142 inch wheel base. Free wheeling and adjustable ride suspension. Padded leather top as was normal for most Pierce coupes of 1932 & 1933. More to come later if Joe decides to post his story, as I don't want to rain on anyone's fun. Ed.

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edinmass    274

Another interesting car, FDR and all the presidents had Pierce Arrows as official White House cars, usually five to seven cars each year. Here are some interesting photos.

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alsancle    437

I could have bought this a few years ago for not a ton of money.  Minus the engine and a bit more worn than this picture.  It was in Harrah's at one point.

 

I blame Ed for not talking me in to it.  This is the club sedan version of the catalog custom coupe above.  On a 31 model 41 chassis.  This particular car was the only Berline.

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edinmass    274

The FDR car is a 1936 V12 series 1603 total factory special. One off. They built two others which were factory custom parade touring cars, one is still around, last seen in South America. It you bought all the car I told you about you would be single and living in your garage. I'm sure you have a Pierce in your future! Here is another photo. 

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alsancle    437

Is that a roll up window in the divider ala a tourster?

 

The living in the garage wouldn't be so bad but I'm sure I wouldn't get to keep any cars.

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edinmass    274

It's in Michigan, suffered a minor under hood fire. No body damage, just hood. Can be purchased when I spoke to the owners six months ago.

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edinmass    274

Any time you want to play where is it hiding, I'm game. I can think of four world class cars I know of, possibly five, and three are way off the radar, the other two are on a very short list of car hunters, all of which have no money!

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K8096    39

Photo taken in the Cleveland/Akron area in the early 70's at a CCCA regional event   Color of the car should make it easy to identify if it hasn't been repainted.  

Identify year & model please.    This is the last one for tonight.   

   

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edinmass    274

I'll throw down the gauntlet, ID the car, body builder, year, chassis, owner when it was new, and cars current location. It has 2200 miles on it. No help from the PA guys!

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K8096    39

That towncar was the one sold new to the Shah of Iran was it not?   Originally painted white with a crest on the door.   It's currently in the Iran auto museum.   They also have a 540K Mercedes autobahn car painted green.      

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edinmass    274

Photo is blurry, 1928 series 81 if I am not mistaken. Only other choice is a 25-27 series 80 as they were all the same, it's not a series 33 or 36, too small.

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edinmass    274

Current location, I have no clue, but it's a six, and I only keep tabs on the eights and twelves. They but a large number of the small series by PA standards. There are quite a few still with us.

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edinmass    274

Correct! Brunn body, that gold hardware, solid gold door handles inside, $30,000 new. Original color was white exterior with a champagne interior. I bought the lap robe from this car from Herman Brunn's daughter in the 1980's. It has the Reza Sha Pavalli's crest on it. Car is in a museum in Iran. 

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edinmass    274

No longer in Ohio, now in the DC area, it was in NJ for fifty years. Owned by a good friend of mine, we are on the board of directors of The Pierce Arrow Foundation Museum at the Gilmore Campus.

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