Oregon Desert model 45 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 NOT MINE REPOSTED FROM CRAIGSLIST 1913 Buick - $25000 (quincy and sante fe) https://denver.craigslist.org/atq/5788888118.html I am selling my 1913 Buick if you enjoy old vehicles and are a collector than this would be I beauty in your collection... Contact me at the name and number as listed... Thanks for looking Donnie (303) 809-4099 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I really took a liking to this (looks to be a model 30) till I saw that the fenders and all the trim, lamps, windshield are painted the same deep blue. I will still call just to get the story. The last 4, 1913-31s I inquired on that were available on a craigslist ad indicated that they all ran and were drive able. None of which were true. The one I offered on in Belle Vernon PA. was sold in May and when it was tried on tour the 2nd gear went out on the new owner the first day. I questioned the previous seller about the stuck clutch and the problematic 2nd gear. He said "just needs a simple adjustment". Car also did not run as promised. Joan and I had been guests of Larry and Joyce Schramm. Having a great time riding in a very nice 1913-31 at the Greenfield Village Old Car Festival the previous weekend. The car is from Ontario and the owners said that if I was interested in one that I should get the feel for it. They said, "Let's go for a ride"!!!!! What a great fun day. Thanks again to the Schramms! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Thanks for posting those photo.s . Just love those 1913 model 30 and 31 Buicks. If only I had the money to buy that little roadster. But alas I,ll have to wait till something that needs a full restoration comes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxgvd Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Couldn't agree with buying a project Rod. Many years of bringing a car back to life and with the cost of plating, painting, upholstery and all you will have more in the job than buying an old restoration at a good deal. Then you can drive the car and perform upgrades in the winter, still expensive, but more of a sure thing. I am presently restoring a '15 McLaughlin which has not been on the road since 1991. A good, complete auto which I know the history of since new. I thought I was buying it cheaply but I will be underwater when it is finished. On the upside it will all be new and proper. two years to do the job, about half way through. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I just spoke with the seller of the 1913 Buick posted on the forum. He sent more photos to my wife's phone but cannot be enlarged beyond postage stamp size. Model 30. He confirmed all the fenders and trim including top sockets are dark blue. Same story, different day. Granddads car... Interpretive 40 year old + restoration..... Has not been run for 25-30 years. Nice looking car though. Still big money for a non running car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Mr. Oregon Desert, thanks for posting the text of the Craig's List ad. That will be very helpful soon, because those ads have short lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Can somebody tell me what this lever is for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seldenguy Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Rod, I suspect it is for a exhaust cutout. Quite common on brass and other old cars. --Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 The 1913-31 we rode in had the cut out, as the owner used it during our ride. Love that roar! I had been working on some agreement with a gentleman in Michigan who has a 1913-31 for sale. When I went to look at it after the old car festival I took more photos. Some of the questions I asked told me that he did not know the car as well as I had hoped. I crawled under and found this exhaust. He was not aware that it originally had a cut out. Again, some issues and not running at this time. I thought I could of least heard it run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Larry, I am envious you riding in those 1913 Buicks . I have only ever seen one in parts with body parts only suitable for patterns and another with no body, Hope you have success in finding one soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxgvd Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) I've seen the car in Michigan and I saw it running in 2008? at the GM Centennial Parade in Flint. It should make for a good car to drive and restore over time, see my post above. I know it has issues, perhaps if you explain to the owner how much money the repairs would cost and everyone is reasonable a deal could be struck. After all how often do you get a chance to obtain a 100 year old auto. Good hunting. Gary BTW. The exhaust parts are present including the cutout.. the missing parts are just pipes easily obtainable. Edited September 23, 2016 by cxgvd add a line (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Gary, Can you post some photos of the progress on your 1915. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I have tried to explain the problems with getting it back to correct and the obvious issues but he seems to be stuck on a price. His price in Hemmings was $32,500. As was the same with the one I looked at it Belle Vernon, the only inquiries were from brokers who wanted to list the car for a fee. In both cases I was the only one to actually come and look at the car. He said the top was in bad shape but would not agree to raise it so we could check. The dash had a later Delco switch unit cut in even though there were no electric lights. Probably at one time it did since it has the mounted period aftermarket generator. He said the magneto was not functioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxgvd Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Sorry to hear the seller isn't being reasonable, I think you could do wonderful things with this car, A rebuilt magneto is likely $500, the top takes 9 yards of Stayfast at $68 each from LeBaron Bonney plus some assembly required. Have no idea what the generator is although it looks to be well done. Wrong intake manifold and is that a model A carby? Carby is for Rod, that is the correct term isn't it. The four brass fittings under the spark plugs are the remains of the acetylene starter. I've not seen a complete setup though I understand a fellow who uses this forum has one intact. Again best of luck. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxgvd Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 For Rod and not to hijack this thread here is a photo as found of the 1915 McLaughlin ( Canadian Buick) my wife and purchased last year for 6,000 to 7,000 USD, hasn't run since 1991. We know the history from new, the fellow we got it from has had it since 1969 and the original purchaser owned until the second world war began. Presently receiving a complete rebuild, just replaced four or five pieces of structural wood and repainted the body a correct dark blue. The fellow told me the engine was rebuilt which I discounted to mean new sparkplugs but was pleasantly surprized to find it was and is excellent. With what I thought was a good starting price I will have more invested than I could reasonable sell it for and what a lot of work. Though electric start, HCCA and Snappers car. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Gary, Will be looking forward to seeing pics of the car when it,s finished. You were lucky the wood was in such good condition. In Australia we just dream of prices like that. When we buy parts or cars from the U,S the final price is double the purchase price. I never even try and keep track of the money I put into my cars, My wife might shoot me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 6:30 AM, dibarlaw said: I have tried to explain the problems with getting it back to correct and the obvious issues but he seems to be stuck on a price. His price in Hemmings was $32,500. As was the same with the one I looked at it Belle Vernon, the only inquiries were from brokers who wanted to list the car for a fee. In both cases I was the only one to actually come and look at the car. He said the top was in bad shape but would not agree to raise it so we could check. The dash had a later Delco switch unit cut in even though there were no electric lights. Probably at one time it did since it has the mounted period aftermarket generator. He said the magneto was not functioning. Larry, The generator is not aftermarket. I have one on my 1913 Buick Model 31 too. This was the first year for electric headlights with factory bulb sockets in the corners of the kerosene side lights and tail light. It was also the only year for the optional acetylene starting system. I agree that the dash switches and ammeter are not correct for 1913. There should be only three push button switches for lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmca Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Anyone know if the car in the first post is still for sale? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 2 hours ago, hmmca said: Anyone know if the car in the first post is still for sale? Thanks Even though the short-lived Craig's List link is dead, our original poster copied all the information into our forum. Anyone can call the seller, thankfully, and see. For many cars, it is a buyer's market, so cars don't often sell quickly. Maybe it's still awaiting a berth in your garage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I was talking to the owner a few days back and its still for sale. I have posted more photo,s in Buick pre war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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