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Thanks Ed.

 

Has anyone else seen a special order interior? I am curious about what other examples might be.

 

Would be great to get some interior pictures Felix.

 

Thanks!

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Paint, yes. Interior, no.  The factory had their colors and options but nothing like "specials" that were available for paint.

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Ok, so Ed, based on your experience/expertise the SPL is NOT indicating a special addition to trim, but instead a redundant paint reference?

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I have no knowledge of the SPL.  This is the first example I've seen with that on it.  I'm beginning to believe that this tag was the first attempt for a new employee. :D

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On ‎03‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 7:58 PM, Chimera said:

Can we get some pictures of the interior Dr. Watson? Evidently the word on the streets is that this has special order paint AND special interior. Lets see if we can figure out what the interior addition is.

 

. . . could it simply be that the SPL actually applies to the 00 paint ? hhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

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That would be funny Ed. Basically a mistake at the factory, which of course I am sure happened more than we think.

 

It could be a reference to the paint, certainly, but I would definitely not rule out the possibility of an added interior feature. MAYBE, this car was a custom order vehicle (specifically chosen features), but NOT a special (outside the normal options) order and so they created a special plate in referencing the custom order, in which case Ed's theory could be on target. Like when first generation models have that star symbol. I don't know that the star symbol means that, but I do know that our Grandfather ordered specifically what he wanted, a black 64 with red interior and very few upgraded options, and there is a star on the plate. 

 

I find it interesting to investigate these vehicles. Fun stuff: However, as RoA members we are scientists damn it, and we need to see the data! So I prefer pictures of the interior over my speculations.

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Not having owned a 66 or 67 for quite a few years but just looking at the seat bun inserts for the front seats,to me it appears that they have been reupholstered.  The seams don't match the lean backs or the back seats.  OR, it could be camera angle and my point of view.  Either way, it has nothing to do with the trim code.  

 

Ed

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Hi Ed,

I am pretty sure they are original.

I have had all the seats out and all the original foam is still there.

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This is a 68. Looks all original, fully loaded, and in great shape. It has the earlier run hard plastic deluxe interior door handles. I think I see a power door lock on the passenger side. Not sure how rare that is with this year.

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Like the headlight system in '68-'69 Riviera, those 'power door locks' were vacuum operated, and had miles of 1/8" colour coded hoses running from the lower firewall vacuum manifold through the centre of the dash panel to a control relay and out into each door through the rubber conduit that also housed the power window harness.

Like the headlight system, all you needed was one split hose, or vacuum leak to render the locks useless  ! They are a fairly rare option, and not to many Riviera owners chose them.  They are well covered in the '68 Shop Manual ! 

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It even has cruise control. Very uncommon in 68. And it has headrests also very rare in 68. Does it have a reclining passenger seat too?

Lastly does this car have front and/or rear shoulder belts? If I understand correctly front shoulder belts didn't become mandatory until January of 68 so prior to that they would have been optional.

 

Interesting Fisher tag for sure;.Does the SPL- mean mean special interior trim? So far we can't determine what is special. It has the early style door pulls but it is a Nov build so that is probably normal. 

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13 hours ago, 68RIVGS said:

 

. . . could it simply be that the SPL actually applies to the 00 paint ? hhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

 

 

In this case I think the combination of SPL and OO do indicate special order paint, which is why I asked to see the trim code, to verify that it was one of the trims available from the factory on the Riviera.  Most of the special car order trim tags I've seen are from Flint for other models than the Riviera and they use the SCO notation in either the trim code or paint code location to indicate a special order.  It would appear that Euclid used SPL instead of SCO to indicate a special car order.  I've only seen one other trim tag from Euclid with SPL on it, but it’s not clear what the special order was for.  For special order paint, the actual paint color was often listed on the build sheet if you are lucky enough to find one.
 
 

1968 Buick Trim Tag 13.jpg

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You're just trying to open another can of worms.?  You're right on the SPL on the plate you pictured; both the trim code and the paint code are standard trim and paint for a 1968 Riviera.  

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According to Darwin Falk's  Options Not Included: 1968 Interior in the Jan/Feb 2009 Riview:

  • The change from the small hard plastic door pull to the long vinyl door pull strap occurred in early 1968.  This would fit with the data plate indicating a build in the fourth week of November 1967.
  • A total of 4.8% of 1968 Rivieras were ordered with headrests. Of these, 1.7% had the headrests as a stand-alone (perhaps the term sit-alone would be more appropriate) option.  The rest of the 4.8% of 1968 Rivieras with headrests were ordered with the recliner option which included the headrests.  Darwin gives a further breakdown in the article for the various interior types.
  • Front shoulder harnesses were optional prior to 1/1/68.  Thereafter they were standard.
  • 0.7% of 1968 Riviera were ordered with rear shoulder harnesses.  

Jim Vesely

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ROA # 7437

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Im also curious if this car has the quick ratio steering. How many turns from lock to lock? Thanks.

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Answers to your questions

 

Steering - 3 1/2 turns lock to lock

 

Passenger seat -  reclines

 

seat belts - front and back seats belts are all lapbelts

 

wheels - thety are made in Taiwan with no name. They are 17 by 8 1/2 inches.Tyres are 255/45zr17

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Hmm, quick ratio steering will turn lock to lock at 3.25 turns versus the standard 3.75. Perhaps standard then.

 

Darwin mentions that about 1 in 10 had the power locks in 68 (5,511).

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