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Hello On Safari

That one is an early 8 hp, 2 wheel brake (no front brakes) with quarter eleptic springs all around, (one in each corner) They have a nice little over head cam four cylinder engine of just under one litre. As you can see this one has twin SU carbs and an outside "Brooklands" exhaust. It would do 50 mph down hill, if the hill was steep enough and there was sufficient road to stop at the bottom.

It is now somewhere in England.

 

Bernie j.

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I looked at the advert and sent a reply asking a couple of questions such as do you have a Radiator, Lights or instruments but got no reply. Right now I am helping our daughter to sell her one owner Toyota Starlet so have not worried about following up on the Triumph. If the vendor is not going to answer there is not all that much I can do.

 

Bj

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On 6/11/2017 at 9:39 AM, OnSafari said:

 

Hi Bernie, would this Triumph Super 7 be of interest?

 

 

Yes, I could be very interested. I have tried replying to the Triumph advert again. This time I did get a short reply to which I sent a return email offering to buy it at his advertised price. Sorry, no reply again. It is a strange thing why people advertise cars for sale and then apparently decide that they do not want to sell them after all. Oh well! Something will come along eventually.

 

Bj 

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On 6/12/2017 at 4:57 PM, oldcar said:

 Something will come along eventually.

 

I am now in somewhat better contact with the vendor of the Triumph Super Seven and slowly grinding towards an understanding. Hopefully eventually something may come out of all our communication. Just don't hold your breath!

24 hours later.......

I get the impression that the vendor is not prepared to do anything more than put out his hand to receive the cash. He seems incapable of doing anything to even assist in shifting the car out of his garage. I have asked if he could wrap the radiator and pack the loose parts into a strong cardboard box and he ignores the question. I have asked for his Bank or Paypal  details so I can send him a deposit to secure the car while I arrange transport and he ignores even this request.

I really do not want to make the 7 or 8 hour drive towing an empty trailer one way, count the money into his hand then load the car single handed and finally make the return 7 or 8 hour journey home.

Either he wants to help me to buy  his car or I simply go away and find something else.

 

Am I being too difficult?

 

Bernie j

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What you have all been waiting to hear, I have bought the Triumph Super Seven.

I will start a new thread for it in the next week or so.

First thing is to organise transport from Canberra ACT to Melbourne Vic.

 

Bernie j.

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That's great Bernie! Looks like an interesting project. I'll have to do some research on Triumph Super Sevens. (I've got a Triumph too, but it's a much later one. :))

 

What is the advantage of this car over the Humber? Is there less work to do to get it on the road, or more easily available parts, or ??

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Hello Paul

There are a number of considerations. Being 1929 it is closer to my own age. Being technically a "light car" the ease of handling components becomes significant as does the availability of parts. Throughout the past 60+ years my main interest has always been cars of under 1.5 Litre capacity. And I know that this one may sound a bit odd-ball but I LOVE cars wioth trailing 1/4 elliptic rear springs. While I felt that the Humber demanded a proper timber body frame, something oiutside my day top day capabilities and very expensive to have done by a specialist wood worker, I tend to look at little cars such as the Triumph, Singers and Morrises as being expendable, as such suitable  to receive one of my steel tube body frames that I can easily do in my own little garage using nothing more complicated than an oxy-acetylene torch. I have a very basic "tube bender" that I made for myself out of scrap, what seems like 100 years ago.

I can use as inspiration one of the "side valve" 1920s Aston-Martins. You only need to look at one or four  of my earlier projects to see the connection.

Very early in their existance Aston Martin's body builders had worked out how to make attractive sporting bodies without the necessity of using compound curves. I know that I have shown you some of these photographs before but I don't think that I can do better than repeat them. All four/five are examples of my square tube frame and aluminium sheet bodies. You may smile but I am quite proud that I managed to build them, plus a number of  other examples, working on my own  in a small single car garage plus an open carport, using only VERY BASIC hand tools. The top Black and White illustration is the Aston Martin!

I did have some outside assistance making the mudguards (fenders) on the two Morris Cowleys.The last in the collection of photographs is probably the most unique 1928 Dodge Four in  existence. If you look closely you will see that it too has 1/4 elliptic rear springs.

 

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Hello OnSafari

They are both "flat nose" for one reason or another I have never owned a Bull-nose.

Perhaps I am missing out on something but I will probably never know. I understand apart from the very early Bull-nose mechanically there is very little difference. It is  a strange thing but I have met up at different times two of the owners of the Dark Blue car but I have not seen or heard of the Silver (polished aluminium) and Red car since the day I sold it. This is most unusual as even the owners of cars that have travelled to the other side of the world, (The Czech Republic for instance)  seem to find me from time to time. So far I have not heard from anyone who wants their money back.

 

Bernie j.

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Hello Bernie

I really like your post during 2016 / 17 on your Humber project.

I have always been a fond follower of Humber's and recently taken on a 1912 Humber project here in the UK

I am sure its not, but my project looks very similar to your car?

Chassis number finishes with a 2?

If it is I would be really interested to find out more about its history?

All the best

Andrew

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Hello

I am sorry but I doubt very much if this is the same Humber that I owned briefly some years ago. I  sold it in very much the same condition that I had acquitted it. An almost total "basket case". It went to England where I believe it again changed hands without very much work being done on it. I have not heard anything of it since. It would be a remarkable "oily rag" restoration IF it is the same car.

 

Bernie j.

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Hi Bernie

Todays been an interesting day I received the four remaining crates of parts (as shown in your earlier picture) and the paperwork for my new project.

I can confirm it is your car.  I am really impressed with the work you have done to get this project well underway and keen to keep the same colour you mention on the forum.

I checked and understand you sold the car to John Baldwin and this was then sold to Alastair who done a great job in rebuilding the engine with new pistons and an electronic distributor.  The car runs very sweat and the wheels have been rebuilt and re tired.  The bodywork and interior are still work in progress and I embrace the challenge to take the car up to its original condition.

I am really interested to know its history can you let me know where your got it from and any background please.

You have done a great job in preserving this car and I am keen to fulfil the vision

All the best 

Andrew

 

andrewbrysonclarke@gmail.com

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Hello Andrew

Firstly I must apologise it is indeed the Humber that passed through my ownership a few years ago. I am sorry that I cannot add very much to its history other than I came to me from Wilunga in South Australia  where it had been for some years. You must remember I am a compulsive restorer/finder of derelict cars. Cars that are usually totally dismantled. The Humber was one of those. Some I fully restored to running and driveable condition others were sold part restored. My current project a 1929 Renault Monastella is different in that after a space of four or five years it has come back to me in almost excatly the same condition as when I sold it. I am now working on it again starting to finish jobs that I had started so many years before.

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