Ben Bruce aka First Born

Modified 263 for my 1950 41D

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Ben,

may be your torque ball itself at the sealing Surface are worn out ?...how do you fix it ?...

can get a new repro Part from Bob or somthing else ?

 

 

 

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For what it's worth, I have been told, by a supplier, that the reason the "rubberised" torque ball retainers for Dynaflow do not work on the synchromesh is the flange size is different. Apparently '53 and later they work!  So I will have to stick with the metal to metal.  Pits and all.

 

  Ben

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Is it possible to have the rubber vulcanized to the metal retainer you have? 

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17 minutes ago, Beemon said:

Is it possible to have the rubber vulcanized to the metal retainer you have? 

Probably not, since even the 55 original outer retainer is different shape than the one with rubber and you cannot use the original as a 'core'.

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2 hours ago, MrEarl said:

 

 Info I found is that the flange to the transmission is different size for a standard. So I just "smoothed" mine a little and will have to live with it.  Thanks, Lamar.

 

  Hope to get mine back together soon.  Caretaker duties are becoming all time consuming.

 

  Ben

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On 4/18/2018 at 8:25 AM, Ben Bruce aka First Born said:

 

 Info I found is that the flange to the transmission is different size for a standard. So I just "smoothed" mine a little and will have to live with it.  Thanks, Lamar.

 

  Hope to get mine back together soon.  Caretaker duties are becoming all time consuming.

 

  Ben

Greetings Ben

    Don't know if it's doable, but Bob's sells revulcanized 1939 torque balls which are in the center of the driveshaft. The seal totally covers the inside of the "cup" and I'm wondering if they couldn't do that to the one you have? 

 

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   Thanks for thinking about me!    I doubt there is enough clearance for that. 

     I used valve grind compound and "lapped" the ball and retainer. Didn't come perfect, but better.  Hopefully will not leak TOO bad.  If it does I will install a catch pan. Shouldn't be too difficult.

 

  Ben

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Have any of you 1950 owners actually located the frame/serial number on the frame? Manual says left frame rail near master cylinder. I have never found mine.  Is it on the OUTSIDE of the frame or on the INSIDE.

 

  Ben

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Ben

 

On my 53 and all of the 51/52’s I have parted out it is on the top of the drivers side frame rail much further forward. In some cases it was clear up on the frame horn. Never heavily stamped. A good wire brushing and a little spit will usually reveal it!

 

Gary

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1 hour ago, Ben Bruce aka First Born said:

Thanks, Gary.  That is different than the 1950 Slop Manual documents for 1950.  Will keep looking.

 

  Ben

 

Apparently the 50 manual reads the same as the 53 manual. Must have been easier to get to when stamping as many seem to be forward of the master cylinder.

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  DO YOU HEAR THAT?  George is running again.!  Finally, about noon, everything was hooked up, double checked, and checked again. Fired right up. Sounds good.

   Remember the lifter problem earlier?  Taken care of.  Had the valve spring pressure re done to same as original. Actually, just removed a spacer from under them.  Before I had to use 20w 50 oil to keep them quiet. Now have 10w 30.  Will see how it does when I get a chance to drive. Took care of a couple oil leaks, I hope.  One self induced, another the nature of the beast. First was the oil out to the full flow filter. I had drilled the hole into the oil galley a hair too large. And the wall is not thick there.  The fitting   [NPT] would not tighten enough. While the engine was apart for the sleeve job, I worked on it.So far so good. Another is the corners of the oil pan, especially the front.  Did you ever look closely at how much is going on  here?  Gasket against the block. Flat plate behind cam gear/timing chain. Another gasket . Timing chain cover.  All trying to match up with the front main cap. Then the pan gasket. Gaps everywhere..  I spent considerable time trimming gaskets and filling gaps. I THINK I got everything. Again, we will see.  Company coming this week. I believe car work is in the back burner for a few days.

 

  In retrospect.  If doing a 263, don't bore over 100 thousandths unless sonic test is done.   Don't use stronger valve springs on a hydraulic lifter engine.  Other than that, would do pretty much as I did again.

 

  Next week, after company, will get AC charged and cooling. 

 

  Later

  Ben

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Good to hear that's go ahead with your Engine....and yes,the Problems with the Fittings and front Plate you described ,are very 

well known for me too...😁

 

 

 

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Well danged if it hasn't been a MONTH! 

 

  A lot has happened. Nothing too major.Just had to pull the transmission . Had a bad leak at the front.  Tain't easy for a young man to do this. And I passed that milestone a LONG time back.  I really do not know where the oil was coming from except it was from the front of the transmission. Cleaned everything again and installed a new gasket between the flywheel housing and the transmission. So far so good.

  Recharged the AC. 

  Checked plugs, as I was having a stuttering, popping from the exhaust. Found one with NO gap. What is up with that?. Happened once with the 248. Re gapped and re installed. All good. I think.

 

  After about a fifty mile drive, cool as a cucumber, seems to be all well. 

 

  Denver , here I come!

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10 hours ago, 2carb40 said:

Ill be hunt'n you down for a meetn'!

 

 I would be disappointed if you did not!  Thinking about wearing my name on my back so i will be easier to recognize. Anyone else?

 

  Ben

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 Well, been back home for two days. George made the trip to Denver with no adverse issues.  Great gas mileage, a hair over 20 mpg average for road miles. Best of 21+.  Can't complain about that.

 

  Torque ball still leaking. Had to fill it in Denver. Probably needs it again.

  

  Met 2carb40 [ Gregg], Father Buick [ Douglas ], Paul White, an Aussie, and several others. I DID NOT KEEP A NOTEBOOK. AGAIN.  You know the old saying coulda, woulda, shoulda.  Every time I go , my intentions are to keep a photo record of folks I meet. Never happens. 

 

  Ac worked good. Didn't need it much.

 

 I want to add some pictures, but my computer does not want to cooperate. It hides what I download.  I have to go find them.

 

  Later

 

  Ben

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5 hours ago, wndsofchng06 said:

I applaud you for still making the journey after your issues with it earlier in the year....

 

 Well shucks, can't let past problems throw a wrench into the works.:)  Hopefully have the past problem whipped. It WAS my fault. 

 

  Ben

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