nick8086 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Need help on a four stall garage. It will go in the back yard on a slope.. I want a two stall and a side unit.. It will be a L shape unit The first is a the two stall look.. Any one want to share pictures of one done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Go here and you'll find an answer to every single question you will come up with: http://www.garagejournal.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 Thanks for the link.. I just need a picture so I can tell them what I see as my new garage.. Google was not much help... Two deep and two wide to the left.. Not sure if a Morton building was cheaper or just put up a kit from the lumber store... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Thanks for the link.. I just need a picture so I can tell them what I see as my new garage.. Google was not much help... Two deep and two wide to the left.. Not sure if a Morton building was cheaper or just put up a kit from the lumber store... On that questions, it might help to talk to your local government authority. There might be zoning that limits the size & type of building. Also ask about taxes BEFORE you start building. I was looking to add a small building to some property that I have and the twp was going to TRIPLE my taxes. Shelved that idea and bought a 40 ft shipping container for storage. No tax increase because it is not permanent. Crazy. Trying to improve the property and community and would be penalized forever with increased taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Nick, Is this the design you mean, but with 4 single car garage doors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 I want it to look like the first picture I posted.. and the Lay out of the second picture with out the doors on the left side..... It will look like a two stall with a wing off to the left.. I need to make a trip down to the local government.. They told me they would help with set backs and all the other stuff.. Yep the taxes will go up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vila Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Are you going to build it yourself or contract someone to build it for you? When my wife and I were considering building a new house, we could not find exactly what we wanted from any of the local builders since most only wanted to build one of their style homes. I found a house on one of the home plan websites that we liked the looks of the outside, but not the interior plan. I ended up buying some home planning software and designed the interior the way we wanted it, with the look and dimensions of the home plan website house except I added a third garage bay. This program also let us place windows, doors, archways, stairs, kitchen cabinets, sinks, bathtubs, showers, furniture, etc, etc, in the floor plan and look at 3D pictures of the interior. I found a builder at the local builders show who would also let me be a subcontractor to install the bathrooms, entire kitchen, flooring and exterior siding. They took my picture of the house exterior and interior design and created the actual engineering drawings used to build the house. Here is the results shown the first Christmas we started living here: Edited February 1, 2016 by Vila (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 I will have to pay for some one to build It... It is hard to find what you what online.. But I did find this: neat in a way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) I think I found it.. It was a house for sale .... It has the lay out I want... Four stall Edited February 4, 2016 by nick8086 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) I can do 1293 sq ft.. I make a trip down to the local government.. Now how many cars can I fit in this?? My guess is 4? Most of the cars are 133 sq ft.. Edited February 12, 2016 by nick8086 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bollman Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Collect Crosleys less than 60sq ft each 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) Here was the old Garage ... Edited March 1, 2016 by nick8086 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Nick, We went thru all that, and found a solution. We went to a builder that built about a dozen different floor plans and advertised "we build custom homes". They said, pick a plan of the size you want and then tell us how to change it to your custom home. $=up charge. We picked a 1700 SQ Ft 3/2/2 single story plan, then said. Cathedral ceilings, $. Take out two bedrooms and 1/2 bath,- $. Enlarge the garage from 2 to 3, $. Build it over an unfinshed basement with roughed in plumbing, $. Pull the cornér in 5' and put a 10'X30'corner deck on it, $. Add 13 windows (We're on a Mtn top with views in 240 degree diections), $. Add live dormers as sky lights, $, Add a metal roof, $. Add a corner office, $. Add a front porch, $. Now build this 1 bedroom house with 1 & 1/2 baths, we'll finish the lower level ouselves someday. Signed a contract in May and moved in for Christmas 2012. We were here everyday of the build, living in our 2000 SF garage in our motorhome. The garage was my design too, with 3 10'+ wide doors, (1 for the RV the other 2 for cars) a full bath, guest room and a lift, plus 2 carports. In the 3 1/2 years since moving in we''ve finished 1620 SF downstairs and insulated and heated the garages for year round garage time and lanscaped the place. Requiring the purchase of some additional motorized units. Now I can play with cars anytime I feel like it. In the end, this worked out much better cost wise than having my original plan built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 I found a kit for 7 K.. Now I need to work on the cost to put it up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 2/10/2016 at 10:25 PM, nick8086 said: I can do 1293 sq ft.. I make a trip down to the local government.. Now how many cars can I fit in this?? My guess is 4? Most of the cars are 133 sq ft.. And if you build it tall enough you can put in two stacker lifts to make six......and you'll never have to lie on your back again. It's also the cheapest way to add car square footage, square footage they can't tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 5 hours ago, helfen said: And if you build it tall enough you can put in two stacker lifts to make six......and you'll never have to lie on your back again. It's also the cheapest way to add car square footage, square footage they can't tax Absolutely true on all accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) It may come down to the cost.. on the Types of Concrete Foundations I can use.. vs size.. Edited July 12, 2016 by nick8086 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 It doesn't matter. You will ALWAYS have one more car than you can conveniently store. It's one of the immutable laws of nature, just like gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 On 2/11/2016 at 0:25 AM, nick8086 said: I can do 1293 sq ft.. I make a trip down to the local government.. Now how many cars can I fit in this?? My guess is 4? Most of the cars are 133 sq ft.. Sounds like a good project! Every hobbyist can benefit from more space. "Nick," you probably know that a typical parking space is 10 feet by 20 feet. Therefore, a 4-car garage would need to be at least 40' x 20'. The layout of the doors, too, affects how the space is used. Cars could be fit in a smaller space. But on the other hand, most people want some EXTRA space for storage and for working around the car. You could get 5 or 6 cars in your quoted 1293 square feet if the space is used efficiently, but it depends on how much extra space you really want. Mr. Helfen's idea (posting #15) to make it tall is excellent. Allowing vertical height for future lifts will indeed enable you to double your garage space. Be sure to make your door tracks high also. You could build a 4-car garage and eventually store 8 cars in there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) On 7/8/2016 at 1:38 AM, nick8086 said: I found a kit for 7 K.. Now I need to work on the cost to put it up.. The cost of your $7000 kit, you must know, is just a small beginning. Be careful that it's not full of low-cost and low-quality materials, especially if you're shopping for a low price but looking for a high-end architecturally designed building as you showed in your posting #1. Naturally, a kit excludes many things: footings, foundation wall, floor slab, truss bracing, electric, etc., maybe gutters and downspouts. Is the siding vinyl (plastic), cedar, or fiber-cement? What is the thickness of aluminum wrapping of the trim--32 mils, 19 mils, or thinner? Are the garage doors, man-doors, and windows of the budget type? Probably. Is it designed for the correct snow load for your area? I have found the International Residential Code dangerously deficient for snow in my region. Someone may say he uses Pella windows, but they may be their lowest grade, the "Pro Line." I think you'll find little advantage in buying a "kit" for a building. Edited July 16, 2016 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) The back yard has a bad slop to it.. They will have to raise the back 3-4 feet.. Two contractors Not sure if we it can be done.. The 7k was for a 28X28 Building Kit.... It looks like I will go for a 24 X 30 .. This should hold 3 cars.. I can not spent the 50K to do it right.. My wife and me want a walk in shower .. The shower head may run 2k.. We are looking to buy a new house everything has to get done.. Not trying to keep up with Jones.. It is 100K less to buy old and add this stuff than buy new.. Land is very high and they do not like junk in the yard.. "" no covenants "" big plus ... in this old House... Edited July 15, 2016 by nick8086 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Our master bath shower has a pebble stone floor similar to the one shown in the last two pictures. They are neat and non-slippery when wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 On 7/15/2016 at 0:12 AM, nick8086 said: My wife and me want a walk in shower .. The shower head may run 2k.. Nick, the shower you pictured would be from a high-end house. If you are trying to build a garage on a budget, you shouldn't expect a shower like that in a garage. A fiberglass stall would be more typical for the garage you're thinking of. Don't feel bad. People see pictures in magazines and don't realize that those are usually the top end. But budgets and reality have a way of coming together eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) It just put one in.. 4250.00 .. You can have a nice one in a old home also.. Yes this is the things you see in the 500k 900k home.. I like to have a nice shower and a place for my cars... The rest I do not care about... Edited July 17, 2016 by nick8086 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 22 hours ago, nick8086 said: It just put one in.. 4250.00 .. You can have a nice one in a old home also.. Yes this is the things you see in the 500k 900k home.. I like to have a nice shower and a place for my cars... The rest I do not care about... I have a shower like pictured but my home is nowhere in the price range you talk about. The pebble stone floor was only a couple hundred dollars more than plain tile. On a bathroom remodel, that is a small percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) Got a bid at 27k.. I need one more bid . He would add a 10 X 12 side building to store my junk.. not cars.. The bid came in at 40K.. Edited September 11, 2016 by nick8086 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Update i got the walk in shower.. It is very nice.. I did not get the four stall garage . maybe 2019.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Eaton Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) You could maybe get by having a 20 X 20 space for 2 cars but little room to work around them. Here is a sketch with the car parking space 20 ft wide and 24 deep...that allows for longer vehicles and/or some working space in front or back. With your request for a "L" shaped garage, I added the L making it the same size. That gives you room for 4 cars plus the 24 x 24 shop space in the corner, the problem is that adds up to 1536 Sq Ft. You can move the blocks around....you could even cut the 24 x 24 space on a diagonal and that would get you to 1248 but that may mess with your roof line. The second layout add 4 feet to each side for more room to work and open doors... that adds 96 sf to each end. Cutting the 24 x24 on a diagonal cuts reduces it to 288 sf.......... for a total of 1420 sq ft If you could justify keeping the roof full size over the corner section (marked with X ), that could be future expansion and a place for garden equipment etc....walls could be added at a later date. Edited June 30, 2017 by Barney Eaton (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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