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Could this be an overdrive for the 1935 Dodge 11/2 ton truck??


countrytravler

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This is a new one on me. Need help because it is not in the books. 

Have a customer that just bought a 1935 Dodge 11/2 ton truck.

He is saying that the trans is froze and the guy that he purchased it from said its a OD.

He sends pictures  and numbers and nothing is matching.

 

Here is a copy from the customer:

 

Warner Gear Co. T9-1L
connected to:
Warner Gear Co. Muncie L1-1
 
Not sure what the back half is. The seller said it was a 3-speed brownie. But that's not 
what is written on it. It has a single sliding lever, at the moment, this is locked so that it can't be used.
The truck already has real low gears was hoping this might have been a factory OD.
But can't find any info on it. 
Any ideas?
 
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So I go out in our yard and here is a truck in the yard that I really didn't pay any attention to.

It has the same trans and it has a mechanical 2-speed rear end. WOW!

SO! What is this behind the trans in the red box?? Is it a gear reduction box or OD? be a lot of work just to pull and check. Thanks on this on. 1st four picture going cross ways is our parts truck. The red truck going sideways is the customers.

Dave

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The Hollander shows the T9-1L case as used in Stude. Tr. '47-'48 J15 B.

 

They say the Warner T9 is the same as their T163 group. The page with that info. is below.

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My guess is that "L" stands for "low ratio", so it has a low and high (straight through) and perhaps more, behind the gearbox.

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That is an Eaton two speed rear axle on your parts truck, used until 1949.

 

The T9 is a four speed box, used up to 1949? Maybe the "L" in T9-1L means provision for a low range box to be bolted on the back? I haven't found reference to the low range box in either Hollander or MoToR's Truck & Tractor Repair Manual (1950).

 

The vertical bar on LHS of the gear lever on your photo 131614 seems to be the low ratio selection lever. It looks like it slides the sliding change lever and rod back and forward as required.

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Here is a way to test the unit you have. Going to be a pain and time-consuming.

This would be on how to check gearing.

Jack truck up with stands under it.

Pull spark plugs.

Put in 4th gear and turn the engine with a socket and rachet-prybar one revolution on the crankshaft nut. Put a chalk line on a crank and drive shaft. Turn engine one turn and have somebody count the drive shaft revolutions. Then switch whatever that thing is behind the trans. I would do that to ours but the engine is froze. That will answer your questions. Let us know. 

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  • 1 month later...

Hi,

My early '35 Dodge Military KH-31 1.5 ton truck has the same trans arrangement. The other '35 Dodge 1.5 ton military truck I owned had it too...so maybe it's a military thing.

  This weekend I finally began the tear-down of my truck for restoration, and came upon this thread. I would love to hear from anyone who has one of these military Dodge trucks, or parts available for them.....

Thanks, David

deweesetruck@aol.com

972-979-6629 

 

 

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