carbking Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Looks like a reasonable candidate for rebuilding. Just remember in disassembly, patience is your friend! Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted June 25, 2016 Author Share Posted June 25, 2016 Little update, I got my original engine cleaned up and painted, and just got it nested in its new home in the sedan. Not it's time to start hooking it back up to the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 Question, which levers on the steering wheel control what? And also what are all the wire connecters for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha39 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Hi there Bevans077, There should be 3 levers and a horn button on the steering wheel one lever is to advance or retard your distributor another is to control the throttle on the carburettor and the the last one controls the light switch, that's why so many wire connecters. Something like in this photo. Edited June 28, 2016 by Sasha39 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bevans077 said: Question, which levers on the steering wheel control what? And also what are all the wire connecters for? The electrical tabs on the switch at the case of the column are for the lights. You need a wiring diagram in order to set it up correctly. That unit is called a CLUM switch. They are not too difficult to repair if need be. Here is a similar diagram for a 1929 Imperial '80'.... Edited June 28, 2016 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 Ok, that makes sense. I'm going to have to replace the wiring anyway, it's all falling apart. I just looked in the instruction book and found a diagram, don't know why I don't think to check it first. (Actually it's an older copy of an original). So then if my column only has 2 levers, could one of broke off? I guess I need to figure which one in missing. ( It just looks to me like the bottom of the column is complete, going by Sasha's picture) also, is the upper tab for the throttle, and the lower for the timing? It's hard for me to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha39 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 That would be right, there should be 3 levers so one appears to be broken off, you are also correct about the positioning of the controls, upper tab for the throttle and the lower tab for the advance / retard on the distributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 Ok, so I looked at the picture Sasha posted and compared it to the column I have and I think I might have the wrong one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha39 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Looking at your engine photos I can see the connecting rods for the throttle but can't see any connecting rods for the advance / retard but when I look at the bottom of the steering Column I see two connection lugs and the light swim so you would need 3 levers to control their usage and then I look at you distributor and the base plate is sitting in the wrong direction to connect any control rods and looking at the steering wheel I say that they only had a throttle control and light switch and that the advance / retard was controlled by a cable from the dash, just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 For being the same car their sure are a lot of differences. Both engines I have got the same type of rod system for the distributor with minor differences. So, what would be the best thing to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha39 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Sorry Bevans, I couldn't see the connecting rod for the advance / retard in your photos of your engine it looks Ok, can you move the connecting lugs at the bottom of the steering box to see which levers move also the same with the light switch can you rotate the tube that the light switch is mounted on to see what happens at the steering wheel end and if it moves any of the levers, any chance of a photo of the steering wheel looking straight at it so we can see the entire steering wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) It looks like the 2 levers are for, inner one for lights, outer one for timing. The tab for throttle it moves freely. Edited June 30, 2016 by Bevans077 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share Posted July 4, 2016 Ok question, the plates covering the cooling passages on the driver's side of the engine, are those plates originally steel or copper? One engine is steel and the other is copper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) steel. They rust because of galvanic corrosion, hence a copper replacement. A good anticorrosive additive in the coolant is essential. Edited July 4, 2016 by Spinneyhill (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 Thank you spinney, now is there a trick to mounting the shocks? Seems like I can't get the arm down far enough to reach the strap from the axel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha39 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Hi Bevans077, sorry for the delay here are some photos that might be of use to you as you can see the detail of the control tubes, levers and connection lugs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha39 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 As for your Water Jackets there is a company here in Australia that makes them out if Brass if you can't find them over there, here is their website. http://www.vintageandclassicreproductions.com/chrysler.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 5 hours ago, Sasha39 said: As for your Water Jackets there is a company here in Australia that makes them out if Brass if you can't find them over there, here is their website. http://www.vintageandclassicreproductions.com/chrysler.htm Thank you for the pictures Sasha, but as for the water jackets, I was just curious. I have 2 engines, one with steel and one with copper. But I have a broken tee handle , I might have to order one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeforward Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Hi bevans077, i have used Australian made water jacket covers they fitted fine. Used stainless bolts to fix them. I believe jay astheimer has the steering wheel control levers for sale. My 1929 75 has three levers as per sasha39's earlier posts. Happy to get photos if needed. John F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 On 7/4/2016 at 11:24 PM, Sasha39 said: Ok guys, another what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 It's been raining the last 2 days and I'm waiting for parts and pieces I have ordered. So I went down into my basement and started messing with the chrome for the phaeton. I have all the coachwork and panels for the 2nd cowl, so I thought I would try and figure out the windshields. The front one was pretty easy, found lots of pictures of those. But the 2nd one is a little tricky, I was told it had a door in the divider glass, but I can't find any pictures to figure out the puzzle. Might anyone have any leads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevans077 Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 Found a picture that looks like it would be the same. Going to start laying it out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrysler75 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) On 2-11-2015 at 0:40 AM, tcslr said: This is a picture of (a spare) distributor cap. I believe this is the correct cap. It is the right cap dor the Delco Remy on the Chrysler 75 ; it is only used on Chrysler, Bentley MK 8 and Rolls Royce Cloud (((expensive ! ))) Edited January 25, 2017 by chrysler75 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrysler75 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 On 11-12-2015 at 2:21 AM, tcslr said: Bevans077, Certainly the cap is correct. The original distributor was 659B, dual point. That housing, gear and advance arm are right, though. I'll have to check, maybe it is right for the Series 65 engine. That said, it sounds like this car was running prior to its current restoration - so it most likely works. Mr Carbking gave good information. I have a Carter BB1 on my car - that one might be easier to find. I hope you get an opportunity to get the car complete and restored. Tom Instead of the dual point use a contactless device from powerspark , specially made for this distributor, functions very well! ( I know not original, but once installed and set it functions fantastic ) see picture. I also use a Carter B&B 245 SD with adjustabel iddle and main jet, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maok Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 3 hours ago, chrysler75 said: Instead of the dual point use a contactless device from powerspark , specially made for this distributor, functions very well! ( I know not original, but once installed and set it functions fantastic ) see picture. I also use a Carter B&B 245 SD with adjustabel iddle and main jet, Quick question, what models delco remy And powerspark units are they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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